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TheBrain

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Acme Lab
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: Korea Herald guest column: Are hagwon teachers slaves? |
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https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/06/27/200706270061.asp
The greatest slavery of all?
Writer Kim Seok-pil takes a not so tongue-in-cheek look at the EFL sector and asks the question: Are EFL teachers in Korea lower than Goryeo Dynasty slaves?
Are foreign teachers in Korea, slaves? Or rather, do EFL teachers in Korea receive fewer benefits than Goryeo Dynasty slaves?
During the Goryeo period (892-1259) there were landowning slaves. These slaves were not unique in terms of race or religion. They were simply people who could be bought or sold as property. At that time, social status was clearly defined and cemented in legal statutes such as those contained in Goryeosa and more specifically in the Gyeongguk Daejeon or National Law. Segregation and discrimination were intrinsic parts of the law.
The sources of slaves were many. Some were descendents of prisoners from the earlier unification wars of Silla and some were criminals. Others were forced into slavery by powerful local magnates.
There were at the time, both public and private slaves. Government female slaves included domestics, entertainers and courtesans. Punishment of slaves varied from execution to banishment and branding. However, by mid-Goryeo a slave could own land and even other slaves. A slave, no matter his position, was not as good as other men. With few exceptions, a slave could not speak for himself.
Now, let`s take a look at EFL teachers in Korea.
An EFL teacher cannot simply quit his job when he or she wants to. A foreign teacher attempting to flee the country before the completion of a contract can be arrested and held in jail. Then, after payment of a fine, he or she is deported, or "banished." A permanent record is imposed, similar to a branding, after only one offense. A slave during the Goryeo Dynasty however, could attempt three escapes before the punishment of branding was imposed.
Foreign EFL teachers cannot own land. Goryeo Dynasty slaves could.
Both Yangban (educated elite) and slaves during Goryeo were part of a social whole, which included responsibilities, benefits, and security. To deny anyone their part in this social whole would have been unthinkable. Foreign teachers in Korea are often fired in the 11th month of their contracts, thus denying them of the benefits they are supposedly guaranteed by Korean law. Foreign teachers are not part of any "social whole."
For the most part, EFL teachers are not prisoners of war, or criminals. They are, however, forced into a subordinate role in Korean society by what are often wealthy hagwon (private institute) owners.
Foreign teachers cannot speak for themselves. They can and often are punished in a variety of ways for advocating on their own behalf. An EFL teacher is only permitted to teach English at the educational institution to which he is contracted. No other employment is permitted.
Likewise, foreign EFL teachers cannot play musical instruments in public, as was proven recently when some were arrested in Busan and deported for that very "crime." A foreign teacher cannot teach orphans on a volunteer basis, or private students. Foreign teachers are "watched," and publicly warned that they are "being watched" as the 200 large signs displayed in Daejeon in May and June 2007 prove.
Let`s take a look at a few other things about slaves. Slaves have the comradeship of other slaves. They know they are slaves. But, foreign EFL teachers in Korea are often unaware of their true social status here. Foreign EFL teachers blindly move through society thinking they are free, when, in fact, in many respects, they are lower than Goryeo Dynasty slaves. This ignorance may be the greatest slavery of all.
By Kim Seok-pil
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2007.06.27 |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm so sick of that metaphor. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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It's good to have more public discussion of this issue.
Did this happen to appear in a Korean version? |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Korea Herald guest column: Are hagwon teachers slaves? |
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TheBrain wrote: |
https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/06/27/An EFL teacher cannot simply quit his job when he or she wants to. A foreign teacher attempting to flee the country before the completion of a contract can be arrested and held in jail. Then, after payment of a fine, he or she is deported, or "banished."By Kim Seok-pil
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B.S. You can NOT be arrested for simply leaving a contract. I have done so, and so have many other teachers. That article is either 'taking the p*ss" or complete nonsense. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Korea Herald guest column: Are hagwon teachers slaves? |
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TheBrain wrote: |
https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/06/27/200706270061.asp
Foreign EFL teachers cannot own land. Goryeo Dynasty slaves could.
. Foreign teachers in Korea are often fired in the 11th month of their contracts, thus denying them of the benefits they are supposedly guaranteed by Korean law.
Likewise, foreign EFL teachers cannot play musical instruments in public, as was proven recently when some were arrested in Busan and deported for that very "crime."
By Kim Seok-pil
([email protected])
2007.06.27 |
B.S. There are English teachers here who do own land.
11th month firings are frowned upon by the labour board. Usually a call there is all it takes. Again there are teachers who have had success against their crooked hakwon owners.
Again B.S They can play their musical instruments all they want. They simply can't charge admission for it. That was the problem the B9 were charged with. I remember when I and my friend borrowed the instruments of some street musicians after having a few beers with them and then we played on a street corner of Seoul for a while. All kinds of people passed on by, some stopping and watching (including a couple of police officers). Nothing ever happened except clapping and cheering.
And were the B9 deported? There's at least one person I know of who's still here. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Again B.S They can play their musical instruments all they want. They simply can't charge admission for it. That was the problem the B9 were charged with. |
No. Charging admission is not the law. As the author noted, the LAW reads that we can't PERFORM. As the charges were read to me, this performance was considered "activities outside of the stipulations of my E2 visa": The fact that I volunteered for my performance was inconcequential to the police. It has NOTHING to do with charging admission.
The letter of the law reads that we are not permited to volunteer or perform. You are going to have to trust me on this. Most Koreans ARE willing to turn a blind eye to it though.
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Likewise, foreign EFL teachers cannot play musical instruments in public, as was proven recently when some were arrested in Busan and deported for that very "crime." |
Is playing fast and loose with the truth. A couple of people were de facto deported but no one was technically deported. And (I think) both of them are either a) currently working legally in the country again b) about to start a new job on a new visa.
And not to highjack the thread but just so everyone knows, the B9 have been officially exonerated of any wrong doing. To get a new visa (not renew), we are required to write a letter of apology to immigration. That's it. The prosecutor's office saw the video and (according to the director who met with the reprentative) actually found most of it quite funny. |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Korea Herald guest column: Are hagwon teachers slaves? |
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The_Conservative wrote: |
TheBrain wrote: |
https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/06/27/An EFL teacher cannot simply quit his job when he or she wants to. A foreign teacher attempting to flee the country before the completion of a contract can be arrested and held in jail. Then, after payment of a fine, he or she is deported, or "banished."By Kim Seok-pil
([email protected])
2007.06.27 |
B.S. You can NOT be arrested for simply leaving a contract. I have done so, and so have many other teachers. That article is either 'taking the p*ss" or complete nonsense. |
That didn't sound very accurate to me either. |
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BuHaoChi
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Korea Herald guest column: Are hagwon teachers slaves? |
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Are EFL teachers in Korea lower than Goryeo Dynasty slaves? |
This is fucking retarded and who gives a flying *beep* about the Gonorrhea Dynasty slaves. |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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BuHaoChi wrote: |
Is this article poking fun at us? |
If it is, it misses the mark, doesn't it? |
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dmbfan

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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gonorrhea Dynasty slaves |
LOL~!  |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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The analogy is outlandish for so many reasons. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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khyber wrote: |
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Again B.S They can play their musical instruments all they want. They simply can't charge admission for it. That was the problem the B9 were charged with. |
No. Charging admission is not the law. As the author noted, the LAW reads that we can't PERFORM. As the charges were read to me, this performance was considered "activities outside of the stipulations of my E2 visa": The fact that I volunteered for my performance was inconcequential to the police. It has NOTHING to do with charging admission.
The letter of the law reads that we are not permited to volunteer or perform. . |
For E-2's yes. What about those of us who are NOT on E-2's? The writer failed to make that (very) important distinction (as did the Daejeon hakwon association.)
And you will notice that I said PLAY, NOT perform or volunteer. I seriously doubt that Immigration is going to arrest you for sitting on your balcony and playing your guitar...even if the children in the playground below stop running around and start listening. Now if you start asking for money...there might be a problem. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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The_Conservative wrote: |
khyber wrote: |
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Again B.S They can play their musical instruments all they want. They simply can't charge admission for it. That was the problem the B9 were charged with. |
No. Charging admission is not the law. As the author noted, the LAW reads that we can't PERFORM. As the charges were read to me, this performance was considered "activities outside of the stipulations of my E2 visa": The fact that I volunteered for my performance was inconcequential to the police. It has NOTHING to do with charging admission.
The letter of the law reads that we are not permited to volunteer or perform. |
For E-2's yes. What about those of us who are NOT on E-2's? The writer failed to make that (very) important distinction (as did the Daejeon hakwon association.) :) |
E-1 (Professor) Visa Regulation from the Immigration Bureau
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*In the case of a national or a public University, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor. |
Visa Issuance Procedure
http://moj.go.kr/HP/ENG/eng_03/eng_306030.jsp
Foreign Residents Face Discrimination
In Riding Subways, Opening Web Sites and Getting License
By Kim Tae-jong, Korea Times (May 31, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/05/113_3819.html
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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She left out the Mormons  |
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