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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: TV "Foreign Beauty": teacher wanted sex for grades |
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| Lecturer Fired for Sexual Advance to Japanese Student |
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200706/200706270015.html
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A Japanese guest on the panel of KBS� "Global Talk Show" was apparently telling the truth in her explosive revelation that she suffered sexual advances from a Korean college lecturer here. The lecturer admitted everything on Tuesday and resigned. �Global Talk Show" deals with Korea as seen through the eyes of 16 foreign women living here.
During discussion on the show of sexual harassment in Korea, Junko Sagawa said, "In my freshman year, one lecturer said he�ll give me good grades if I have sexual relations with him even if I don�t attend class."
An investigating panel at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies said the lecturer �admitted having a conversation to that effect� with Sagawa, but declined to reveal the exact content. HUFS fired the lecturer. Sagawa said, "Everything I said on television was true; all I did was talk about my experience in Korea since everyone else did. I wasn�t familiar with Korean culture and didn�t realize that my words would have such a huge impact."
The lecturer, identified as Jin, was a contract instructor in a Korean language and cultural education center at the university. Jin visited the school on Tuesday and apologized for �causing trouble.� He had been teaching Korean to HUFS since 1992 and lectured in the Department of Journalism and Mass Communication from 2003. Jin made the sexual advance to Sagawa in 2004, when she was in his class in her freshmen year. She stopped attending the class after the incident.
HUFS admitted there were no proper channels to report sexual harassment but promised to set them up. �Further investigation on additional victims other than foreign students will be conducted,� a university spokesman said. HUFS operates a consulting center for sexual harassment for local students but there is no similar service for overseas students. Some 800 foreign students study at the university. |
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It seems that the instructor turned in his resignation, and was not fired. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| How shagged up is it that in the media here a foreign victim has their full name published, yet the Korean criminal scumbag only gets identified by his family name which he shares with ten million others? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| How shagged up is it that in the media here a foreign victim has their full name published, yet the Korean criminal scumbag only gets identified by his family name which he shares with ten million others? |
Good point. However, the woman did come forward on a talk show. Her name was already aired and out in the public. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm glad the creep 'fessed up and left, but I'm also worried about people going on shows to talk dirt about people they simply want to get back at. Yes, she didn't name him and that's good, but well... |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: TV "Foreign Beauty": teacher wanted sex for gr |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
Update:
It seems that the instructor turned in his resignation, and was not fired. |
Not true. The article just says something along the line of "he's not a regular instructor that belongs to the university but is just on a temporary contract. So all they can do is just to end the contract without any punishment."
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| How shagged up is it that in the media here a foreign victim has their full name published, yet the Korean criminal scumbag only gets identified by his family name which he shares with ten million others? |
The Japanese girl Sagawa Junko is already a well-known tv person and she decided to talk about it on tv by her own will. As soon as it was aired, the investigation began. The last episode's topic was sexual discrimination.
Besides all that "represent us male foreingers!" demand here, many will agree the show has been quite a positive influence. They talk about many of the expats' common pet peeves that are often mentioned on this board. That show is the very one many of you can directly relate to yourselves.
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Fair enough, but the phenomenon I cited is still all too common here. Remember the Aussie teacher gave me AIDS story?
Edit, Jin, a public figure does not get his full name and details published, why? A public figure in a position of trust tries to use his power and position to sexually harass a young student and he escapes in relative anonymity. Again, why?
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| It seems that the instructor turned in his resignation, and was not fired. |
The ajeossi/oldboy network will take care of him. He'll sneak into another respectable job after the dust has settled. I'm sure the unspoken opinion of many ajeossi's is that he didn't do much wrong. Just trying to get some Japanese tail. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
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| It seems that the instructor turned in his resignation, and was not fired. |
The ajeossi/oldboy network will take care of him. He'll sneak into another respectable job after the dust has settled. I'm sure the unspoken opinion of many ajeossi's is that he didn't do much wrong. Just trying to get some Japanese tail. |
What's more, you can rest assured that if this was a foreign teacher there would be a hand wringing expose citing how 99.9% of weyguks have AIDS or the desire to deflower all of Korean womanhood. Doggyji, don't you realise the double standards that the Korean press apply to Koreans and others? |
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albazalba
Joined: 27 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| On the show, 12 of the 16 girls admitted to being sexually harassed while living in Korea. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| What's more, you can rest assured that if this was a foreign teacher there would be a hand wringing expose citing how 99.9% of weyguks have AIDS or the desire to deflower all of Korean womanhood. Doggyji, don't you realise the double standards that the Korean press apply to Koreans and others? |
No doubt. I don't have faith in most of the Korean mainstream press about particular issues. I find most of the moderately educated Koreans cannot help but remain very skeptical. I think the blase attitude is quite prevalent. |
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jaganath69
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| doggyji wrote: |
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| What's more, you can rest assured that if this was a foreign teacher there would be a hand wringing expose citing how 99.9% of weyguks have AIDS or the desire to deflower all of Korean womanhood. Doggyji, don't you realise the double standards that the Korean press apply to Koreans and others? |
No doubt. I don't have faith in most of the Korean mainstream press about particular issues. I find most of the moderately educated Koreans cannot help but remain very skeptical. I think the blase attitude is quite prevalent. |
Problem is the perception of us that seems to resonate through mainstream society as a result of such broadcasting. And while I accept that at times segments of the foreign military and teaching communities do their best to give us a bad name, there is very little positive portrayal of us living ordinary, unremarkable and non-threatening lives here. The only kind of positive reporting I see is of the 'oh look at the white monkeys using chopsticks/wearing hanboks/enjoying kimchi' variety that only serves to heighten feelings of Korean cultural superiority. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: TV "Foreign Beauty": teacher wanted sex for gr |
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| doggyji wrote: |
| They talk about many of the expats' common pet peeves that are often mentioned on this board. That show is the very one many of you can directly relate to yourselves. |
I think most foreigners are less worried about so called 'pet peeves' and more concerned with things like not paying teachers what they are entititled too, being misrepresented in the media, restrictive visas that make it next to impossible for most of us to even appear on a show like 미녀들의 수다. You say the women on the show represent foreigners in Korea, but they are all basically students, a very small percentage of the total foreigner population. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| albazalba wrote: |
| On the show, 12 of the 16 girls admitted to being sexually harassed while living in Korea. |
To be fair, I think most attractive women get harassed at one point in their life no matter where they live. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: TV "Foreign Beauty": teacher wanted sex for gr |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
Update:
It seems that the instructor turned in his resignation, and was not fired. |
Not true. The article just says something along the line of "he's not a regular instructor that belongs to the university but is just on a temporary contract. So all they can do is just to end the contract without any punishment." |
Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. Somehow I thought it meant even though he turned in his resignation, he wasn't fired. You are right, Troll Bait. 
| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Problem is the perception of us that seems to resonate through mainstream society as a result of such broadcasting. And while I accept that at times segments of the foreign military and teaching communities do their best to give us a bad name, there is very little positive portrayal of us living ordinary, unremarkable and non-threatening lives here. The only kind of positive reporting I see is of the 'oh look at the white monkeys using chopsticks/wearing hanboks/enjoying kimchi' variety that only serves to heighten feelings of Korean cultural superiority. |
I don't watch a lot of Korean tv so I can't be so sure about the overall trend. Off the top of my head...I've seen some funny and intelligent western male tv people like Robert Halley (sp?) and Bruno. When I was much younger, there was this popular drama (딸부잣집 maybe) where a western man and a Korean woman's relationship was positively depicted. What about the relatively recent big hit drama "my name is Kim Samsoon".. In fact, in terms of general western male depictions, there is the massive Hollywood entertainment and that may rule it all. However, I do realize the negative stereotypes are imposed on this specific profession group, (male) native English teachers in Korea. Some articles I get to read here are indeed shoddy and unfair. Shame. I think there�s no way to particularly represent English teachers in a positive way though. If anything, it will be just about westerners in general when people get it. The press should just stop injecting negative stereotypes into a group of people who happen to share a certain legitimate profession at any rate.
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| I think most foreigners are less worried about so called 'pet peeves' and more concerned with things like not paying teachers what they are entititled too, being misrepresented in the media, restrictive visas that make it next to impossible for most of us to even appear on a show like 미녀들의 수다. You say the women on the show represent foreigners in Korea, but they are all basically students, a very small percentage of the total foreigner population. |
I didn't say the women on the show represent the whole foreign population in Korea, of course. You would want something more that directly affects your own issues but let's just say the show is a good start. Better than nothing. |
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