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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| jinju wrote: |
I would ask any Islam supporter a simple question. Why do you hate women? Why do you support a system that strips women of all human rights and human dignity? Why are you anti-freedom, anti-human rights, why do you support a system that aims to deprive as half the population of equality and make them sub-human.
I want an answer to these questions. |
You're not allowed to ask those questions-they are disruptive, not peaceful. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I would never dream of getting involved in American domestic issues. I have an opinion about numerous things within the USA, but I leave the social agitation to concerned Americans... |
Is it true that partisan, Canadian interests finance, invest in, and/or collaborate with Michael Moore -- even to the point of hiding a duplicate master of SiCKO in Canada? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| On the other hand wrote: |
| I would never dream of getting involved in American domestic issues. I have an opinion about numerous things within the USA, but I leave the social agitation to concerned Americans... |
Is it true that partisan, Canadian interests finance, invest in, and/or collaborate with Michael Moore -- even to the point of hiding a duplicate master of SiCKO in Canada? |
I think Bowling For Columbine was financed by a Canadian company. though of course that could be a business arrangement as much as an ideological one. I haven't heard of Moore being bankrolled by Canadian political groups.
It is true that many Canadians point to BFC as proof that Canada is superior to the US. Then again, I know a few left-wing Canadians who were embarrassed by his supposed exaggeration of how great life is in Canada. I say "supposed" because I haven't seen the film, and don't much care to. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I haven't heard of Moore being bankrolled by Canadian political groups. |
"Bankrolled" connotes more than I suspect. I understand they contribute to -- that is, partly finance -- his propaganda.
And claims like these red-flag something that goes beyond mere business collaboration...
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| In a May 2, 2007 letter, the Office of Foreign Assets Control informed Moore that he was the subject of a civil investigation stemming from the filmmaker's March trip to Cuba. In the letter to Moore, a Treasury official noted that the department had no record of Moore obtaining a license that authorized him to "engage in travel-related transactions involving Cuba," alleging that Moore violated the United States embargo against Cuba. A duplicate master copy of the film is being held in Canada in case American authorities attempt to seize the film as part of the criminal investigation against Moore that arose from taking American 9/11 rescue workers to Cuba for medical treatment. |
"A duplicate master copy is being held in Canada..." Do you not just love passive-voice constructions and all that they conceal...? |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| Unless Summer Wine would be generous to rehouse several million Palestinians in his or her own country so that the Israelis could settle the West Bank in peace and comfort....? |
I personally wouldn't want to. But that is due more to the fact that it wouldn't be fair to expect muslims who have a history of tradition to have to give it up and live in a secular/ christian nation.
They would be more comfortable living in a muslim state as the problems would be less.
My biggest disatisfaction is with the muslim nations that refuse to give the Palestinian refugees citizenship and treat them as refugees with no real rights.
Ok, they want to take back Israel and drive the Jews into the sea. Fair enough if thats their thing, but why not give the refugees the right to a normal life until that happens.
Christian Lebanese and Palestinians have managed to enter the US, Europe, Australia, NZ and gain citizenship. It hasn't precluded their right to return to their original states if they so decide. The Palestinians have been made pawns by the muslim states.
Plus, if a secular state takes refugees, then it would seem appropiate that they take those who would fit into their country well frist and then those who would find it more difficult second. Its not as if muslim states are lacking in cash to house muslim refugees. They seem to have enough to send to muslims in secular/ christian/ buddhist (you get the idea) states to build mosques, promote idealogies, etc.
If the muslim world really cared about the Palestinians then they should first pour money into the refugees homes before spending it on weaponry to use against Israel. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
| it wouldn't be fair to expect muslims who have a history of tradition |
What the heck is a "history of tradition"? |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I was trying to mean a history of traditional beliefs. Religious cultural etc |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
| I was trying to mean a history of traditional beliefs. Religious cultural etc |
I believe the correct definition is "Backwards F@cks" |
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