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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the parents really have control over what their kids do. We were all kids and know just because our parents forbid something doesn't mean we won't find a way.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I don't think the parents really have control over what their kids do. We were all kids and know just because our parents forbid something doesn't mean we won't find a way.


That's because parents are wimps especially nowadays. "Oh no! No tv for a week! Whaaa!"

Give me a break! Parents don't know how to set boundaries and display authority. They are basically whipped by their own little brats.

I have a 12 year old sister. I can name every game she owns and so can my parents because they APPROVED every game she played. My parents know my sister's friends, so there is NO WAY she could get away with playing something she shouldn't because her friend's parents are as strict as my parents.

Sorry...parents need to man up and not give in to their bratty children. I wonder why modern day parents are such wusses...
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YoshaMazov



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not realistic to believe parents can control what their children do every hour of the day. To prevent me from embarking on a murderous rampage, my parents never let me have Nintendo or SNES, yet I played violent games nonstop. How? I'd simply go over to a friend's house and play Mortal Combat. While parents certainly need to take an active role in their children's lives, it's impossible to shield them from anything controversial, whether it be video games, sex, or alcohol.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was growing up, I remember my 13-year-old friend managed to get into a movie rated M (14 and up). Would you blame his parents?
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
When I was growing up, I remember my 13-year-old friend managed to get into a movie rated M (14 and up). Would you blame his parents?


Where'd he watch it?

Not that it directly relates to video games...

My position on video games is that it's in the house. It's right there and if you are too lazy to stick your head into your living room or kid's room (where there should be a TV anyway in my opinion) then why are you a parent?

Parents are human and busy of course. My annoyance is laid at the feet of parents who don't pay attention to their kids and then go ape shit demanding the government to parent their kids. Basically parents who pass the buck should get a swift kick in the ass and a parenting class for their trouble...

Oh and don't get me started on parents using TV as a babysitter.... Evil or Very Mad
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YoshaMazov wrote:
It's not realistic to believe parents can control what their children do every hour of the day. To prevent me from embarking on a murderous rampage, my parents never let me have Nintendo or SNES, yet I played violent games nonstop. How? I'd simply go over to a friend's house and play Mortal Combat. While parents certainly need to take an active role in their children's lives, it's impossible to shield them from anything controversial, whether it be video games, sex, or alcohol.


I do think parents can control what goes on and comes into their own home. They can control the coming and going of their children. They can reward them for responsible behavior and punish them for irresponsible behavior. They can give them the tools early to think critcally.
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YoshaMazov



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But unless they're prepared to prevent their kids from going to a friend's house they will have to accept the fact that their offspring will almost certainly be exposed to questionable material.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YoshaMazov wrote:
But unless they're prepared to prevent their kids from going to a friend's house they will have to accept the fact that their offspring will almost certainly be exposed to questionable material.


And what's wrong with that?

Have the friends come to your house or make damn sure you know the parents very well. Like I said, my parents knew the parents of my friends when I was growing up. I think when it comes to friendship with youngsters, it doesn't hurt to know the parents...what's their parenting style? What do you allow and disallow in the home? Seems like simple stuff to me....
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YoshaMazov wrote:
But unless they're prepared to prevent their kids from going to a friend's house they will have to accept the fact that their offspring will almost certainly be exposed to questionable material.


Sure. But a night of violent gaming doesn't turn one into a desensitized killer.
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YoshaMazov



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that violent video games cause real violence. I was merely saying that parents can't police their kids' actions 24/7.
Parents certainly should know where their children are at any given time, and they should also take care to meet other parents. However, I feel it would be terribly overprotective for a parent to forbid their child from playing with another child simply because said child has a PS3 with violent video games. Sheltered kids don't always become the most well-adjusted adults.
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buffygrrl1



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Videogames do not kill people. People kill people. Videogames help kids with had and eye-coordination and they also help people get their aggression out while playing and not on other people. I've been a gamer since I was about 9 years old...and I turned out fine Laughing
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buffygrrl1 wrote:
Videogames do not kill people. People kill people. Videogames help kids with had and eye-coordination and they also help people get their aggression out while playing and not on other people. I've been a gamer since I was about 9 years old...and I turned out fine Laughing


A friend did everything in her power to keep violent toys out of the hands of her two young boys. She was this hippy, you know? But whenever they went to a park, the kids immediately picked up sticks and turned them into swords and guns. She couldn't figure out where this was coming from. From my POV, we're all here because we had a male ancestor thousands of years ago that was a better killer than the guy next to him. If we didn't have it, we wouldn't be here. Plain and simple. It's only the last hundred years where we don't really need it and it's a very negative thing.

Child's play is a way to figure out what adults do and how to do it right. If your kids are playing "death camp guard" ("C'mon Billy we need to keep our neighborhood pure of ZOG!") or keeps bucking for "Lil Tyke's First Ghastly Medical Experiment Kit", then it is time to step in as a parent and guide the play. However, I have no problem with a kid playing "bang bang you're dead" war or the computer equivalent. Would I let a 10 year old play grand theft auto? No. Would I let my 14 year old play it? No. Would I let them play Medal of Honor or strategic war games? Sure.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Banning violent video games Reply with quote

The point is that kids see this kind of stuff (guns, killings, drugs, theft etc) all around them anyway. All you have to do is turn on the news or pick up a newspaper and its there. I also believe that it has been prevalent in society for a loooong time, and that humans have been indulging in drugs, stealing things and kicking the cr@p out of each other since way back when, certainly before video games were invented. Could it be that these games are a comment on society? I reckon that society influences the games, not vice versa.
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safeblad



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up playing things like mortal combat, streetfighter, streets of rage, duke nukem and later things like grand theft auto, carmageddon...etc (i'm a young 'un)

I grew up watching action movies on TV.

Its not that my parents were irresponsible, the set boundaries, they didnt let me watch things which would disturb me, or movies with violence which was too raw.

At the end of the day they set me a clearly defined moral code which they knew would not be affected by playing games; they understood that i am capable of discerning between video games and reality, they understood that people that are unable to do so are mentally ill.

Yes by all means blame the parents for the violent actions of their children but blame then for not showing love and not setting behavioural boundaries , not for letting them watch fantastical violence on TV or play beat em up games. Its ridiculous.
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