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rpat8453



Joined: 13 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Rejected Reply with quote

I just got an e-mail from my potential employer
I had some problems with the contract and reworded some of the contract
(ie 2 sick days and any additional would be deduced from my wages)
She just told me that these new stipulations were unacceptable by the manager and since they were a chain, this is the standard contract they use.
WTF? Is this normal? Was the reworking of my contract so off the wall?
Sorry just ranting
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it's very normal. Tell them they can find someone else and move on.
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rhinocharge64



Joined: 20 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep looking, there are plenty of jobs to choose from who will meet your request.
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes ... it is perfectly normal for Korea .... And the decision that you need to make in this situation ... is whether or not you feel like you can live with the contract as it stands OR if it is simply something you can't live with ... Do other aspects of the job or contract outweigh the things that you don't like? if not then just walk away and wait for the next job to come along ... There are many out there

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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: options... Reply with quote

This time of year you are likely to have many more options at employment, so don't cave in to the first administrator who will most likely have other things up their sleeves once you accept the conditions of employment...the market is way too big to settle for something you know is going to cause trouble for you in the near future...
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they will give you only what they intend to give you. You might re-negotiate a contract, but those changes probably will be forgotten or disregarded.

One example might be if you negotiate extra vacation time to be written into the contract, I would find it hard to believe they would honor that if the hagwon only takes 2 weeks a year at set times when the hagwon is closed.

Even though I have 3 sick days and one co-FT negotiated 5, neither of us will actually ever see a paid sick day, becuase we are expected to work sick unless in event it were really impossible for us to come in. (i.e. hospitalized due to car running you over)
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't put much weight into contracts. It's obvious they dont mean much to korean employers. This forum is full of examples. It's pretty much luck with finding a good school. I wish I could rewrite my contract to just work 2 weeks a month. But that's not going to happen. Start work, and if they school just doesn't work out for you, leave and find another but do it profesionally. The world doesn't revolve around english teachers.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are playing hardball with you. If you put your foot down and say it's unacceptable, they might give in.

If the current contract conditions are that bad, it's not worth working there anyways.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
Don't put much weight into contracts. It's obvious they dont mean much to korean employers. This forum is full of examples. It's pretty much luck with finding a good school. I wish I could rewrite my contract to just work 2 weeks a month. But that's not going to happen. Start work, and if they school just doesn't work out for you, leave and find another but do it profesionally. The world doesn't revolve around english teachers.


Not true in every case, but it is a problem.. The labor board will back up your contracts. Certain things are illegal, even if it's in the contract.

If you sign a contract, simply leaving may not be very easy. If no letter of release is given, you can't work legally until your E-2 vias expires. Korean schools often DO revolve around English teachers. You are the face of their business and if they lose you, they lose money, and that gives you leverage in certain cases.
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