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Public school vacations: "dont leave Korea!"
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Public school vacations: "dont leave Korea!" Reply with quote

My principal and vice principal say that I can't ( I think they just mean "should't" ) go overseas during my summer vacation. they reckon i should stay here and "learn the culture and learn how to teach Korean children". i'll do whatever the hell I like with my free time thanx. Actually, this whole thing makes me want to pitch the both of them off the fourth floor of the building, it's really got my blood boiling.

so, can anyone out there who has had the same problem or has dealt with applying for vacation uner a GEPIK contract, give me their stories.

in the contract it says we have to apply for the PERIOD of vacation, which is fair enough and subject to the approval of the principal. but in the application there is a box for Reason and Destination:

Reason: becasue i want to

Destination: whereever I feel like going

we had a good relationship and I don't want it ruined by this petty insecurity that they're showing towards me going overseas for my holiday.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you know exactly what you're doing.
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aaabank



Joined: 27 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the same issue at my school with the 'reason' and 'destination' boxes to fill out. just tell them where you are going and say it is for cultural awareness to be able to better teach the students. most teachers in korea don't take time off and so we are doing something very strange in their cultural mindset.
just go with the flow and they'll let you go.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks. It's normal though. When I wasin GEPIK last year, they wanted all my information, copies of my flight tickets, the parents phone number and address as well as all my girlfriends information because they were positive that I wasn't going to come back. In the end it just made me not want to come back because obviously they didn't trust me. In the end, I gave them my parents phone number and that was it. I told them there was no way they were going to see my tickets or know what hotel I was going to stay in.

Oh yeah, they said they wanted to know my parents phone number so that if anything happend to me, they could call and tell my parents. I just laughed and told them that if something did happen to me, they would not be the first ones to find out and my parents would know long before they would.

I am glad I got out of that place.
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaabank wrote:
i have the same issue at my school with the 'reason' and 'destination' boxes to fill out. just tell them where you are going and say it is for cultural awareness to be able to better teach the students. most teachers in korea don't take time off and so we are doing something very strange in their cultural mindset.
just go with the flow and they'll let you go.


Ok i've filled in the boxes:

Reason: Summer Vacation

Destination: DMZ, Jeju, Beijing and Great Wall.

the DMZ is a one day trip of some 11 days I have off including weekends,
I don't intend to go to Jeju at all but I do intend to go to Beijing for a 3 day tour. the rest of the time I will spend researching korean bar culture.

if that is not to their satisfaction, i will happily drop Beijing from the destination list, go anyway and if i return and they kick up a stink, then and only then i'll piss off home. not before like they're afraid i will
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not been asked any of this.

Why don't you give them an hour by hour detailed description of where you will be and what you will be doing, wearing etc.
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fack 'em. Go anywhere you want. Just make sure you have a valid re-entry permit in your passport.
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
most teachers in korea don't take time off and so we are doing something very strange in their cultural mindset.
just go with the flow and they'll let you go.


You are joking , right? Teachers at my old school were quite happy to tell me they take 70 vacations days per year. 1month Summer/1 month winter plus National Holidays.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmat wrote:
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most teachers in korea don't take time off and so we are doing something very strange in their cultural mindset.
just go with the flow and they'll let you go.


You are joking , right? Teachers at my old school were quite happy to tell me they take 70 vacations days per year. 1month Summer/1 month winter plus National Holidays.


I was thinking the same thing...

My school told me that if I stay in Korea they can give me a longer vacation. I don't see how leaving entitles me to less time than staying here....I've given up trying to make sense of anything in this country...

Korea: Where logic comes to die Rolling Eyes
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
I've not been asked any of this.

Why don't you give them an hour by hour detailed description of where you will be and what you will be doing, wearing etc.



Haha yeh. I'm not giving them anything, i'll take my holiday and go where I like. If they object and try to block me, I'll go home. if they don't trust me to return, as my co-teacher has told me, then there is no respect between us and I can't work for people who don't trust or respect me, simple as that.

if i leave them short an English teacher, that's too bad, they brought it on themselves with their excessive mothering. Our relationship before now has been excellent, I just feel sorry for the kids becasue they really like me and it'll be a shame to just up and leave them in the lurch.
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horang



Joined: 16 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are so immature and childish swearing at your principal on an internet forum just because he said something that you didn't like. He just gave you suggestions for the sake of you, and I don't see anything wrong with staying in Korea, learning culture, traveling, making local friends. You shouldn't be teaching in the first place. You don't seem to be ready for all this new adventure of your life, so you'd better quit your job before you head for China or learn yourself the bar culture in Itaewon.

I can't believe a person like you got even hired by a public school. Pity!
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Do you have to tell your principal then when you want to leave the country?
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Theda



Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience, for what it's worth: I work in a public school and wanted to go to Hong Kong earlier this year. I had to ask my school's permission, and they were OK with it - no forms to fill out, no "you shouldn't go overseas."

However they in turn had to inform the local educational board about this, and they were the ones who weren't happy about my going (though they couldn't do anything to stop me...) One of my co-teachers explained they were worried I would do a midnight run.
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Mr Crowley



Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them you are going on a Korean red light district tour.
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In your contract it says you need to tell them so that they know, but it often also says you need their permission to leave the country.

The problem with that last part is that it is a violation of international law. No one except a government officer can prevent you from leaving any country and then only with cause. Your school's principal can't do shiite to stop you from leaving.

I don't tell my school anything, if I do, I say I'm going to Busan.
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