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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: AMERICA MORE RESPECTED THAN EUROPE AMONG AFRICANS |
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Read it and weep all you leftist American bashers on this board. Yet again a survey shows that the good ol' USA is No. 1 in the hearts and minds of most Africans, except of course for those brainwashed Muslim among them. Perhaps the Darfur efforts can assuage even some of them.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_re_af/us_image_africa&printer=1;_ylt=AmqWNZoGXFkOtWefzVD9V7oV6w8F
And isn't it interesting how Africans, who receive daily assistance from the US and the Eastern Europeans, who also receive assistance but more of a political nature and who have burning memories of servitude under the Soviets, I say, isn't it interesting how they continue to rally behind the USA.
No, it's the smug former colonialists in Western Europe and Canada with their socialist naivete who do most of the shouting and whining.
So to all you anti-American crowd, let's here you explain way this survey. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Steve. Steve, Steve, Steve. You can't keep saying this stuff, man....
You get the lefties all riled up with positive things about the U.S. They only desire peace and tranquility and you just won't let them have it.
You should know better... |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Its funny since all the Africans keep sneaking into Europe a la the Mexican menace in the USA. I guess they can't swim far enough to reach Ellis, so Madrid will have to do.
And who gives a rat's a$$ what a bunch of refuges think? |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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I think that sentiment is being replaced by a new working relationship with China.
America brought war to Somalia. the Chinese have brought jobs, healthcare and infrastructure. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| AMERICA MORE RESPECTED THAN EUROPE AMONG [SIC] AFRICANS |
IT DOESNT EXACTLY SAY THAT!!
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| Hundreds of people were interviewed face-to-face in each of 10 sub-Saharan African countries |
sounds conclusive!....
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| For me, a French (person) is an imperialist, a terrorist," said Jonas Kouadio, a 27-year-old student. "And Americans fight against terrorists |
 very amusing
So the American dream still has appeal and colonialism is still a sore issue, this is all the article is saying and it isnt surprising.
It also says this
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| Also, gripping poverty leaves fewer Africans with the time or energy for debate on global issues, like the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. |
yes exactly. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| America brought war to Somalia. [T]he Chinese have brought jobs, healthcare[,] and infrastructure. |
Sounds like you have a firm grasp of Somali affairs, Julius. Have a link on any of this, by the way? |
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bonanzabucks
Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Location: NYC
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
I think that sentiment is being replaced by a new working relationship with China.
America brought war to Somalia. the Chinese have brought jobs, healthcare and infrastructure. |
In Sudan, China focuses on oil wells, not local needs
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070625/wl_csm/o1sudanchina_1
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The local Sudanese are not too keen on his presence here, either.
Sudan's oil production averages 536,000 barrels a day, according to estimates by the Paris-based International Energy Agency. Other estimates say it is closer to 750,000 barrels a day. And there is an estimated 5 billion-barrel reservoir of oil beneath Sudan's 1 million-square-mile surface, almost all of it in the south of the country, an area inhabited mainly by Christian and animist black Africans who fought a 21-year civil war against the Arab-dominated Muslim government of the north.
The vast majority of this oil, 64 percent, is sold to China, now the world's second-largest consumer of oil. And while neither Khartoum, China, nor Petrodar release any statistics � this is generally believed to be an oil deal worth at least $2 billion a year.
China's National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) is the majority shareholder in both Petrodar and the Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Company, two of the biggest oil consortiums in Sudan.
CNPC has invested billions in oil-related infrastructure here in Paloich, including the 900-mile pipeline from the Paloich oil fields to the tanker terminal at Port Sudan on the Red Sea, a tarmac road leading to Khartoum, and a new airport with connecting flights to Beijing.
But they have not invested in much else here.
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Locals blame their lot on oppression by Sudan's Islamist government and the long war with the north. But they also blame the Chinese.
"[The Chinese] moved us away so we would not see what was going on. They were stealing our oil and they knew it," says Abraham Thonchol, a rebel-turned-pastor who grew up near Paloich. "Oil is valuable and we are not idiots. We were expecting something."
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"The Chinese simply do not care about us," says Martin Buywomo, Paloich's mayor. "They have no contact. They never even came to my tent to pay respects. They think we are lesser people." A member of the Shilluk tribe who attended British mission schools, Mr. Buywomo puts down the worn copy of George Eliot's 19th-century classic "Silas Marner" he is reading and continues sadly. "We see them in their trucks but they overlook us. If they saw us dying on the road, they would overlook us."
Buywomo rearranges the Chinese-made plastic pink flowers on his desk. "This is colonialism all over again."
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The Sudan is not Somalia. This information is not on point. And, regardless, do you believe that this fully represents what the Chinese have brought to the Sudan? |
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Lie Bot
Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere with Seoul!!!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: AMERICA MORE RESPECTED THAN EUROPE AMONG AFRICANS |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Read it and weep all you leftist American bashers on this board. Yet again a survey shows that the good ol' USA is No. 1 in the hearts and minds of most Africans, except of course for those brainwashed Muslim among them. Perhaps the Darfur efforts can assuage even some of them.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_re_af/us_image_africa&printer=1;_ylt=AmqWNZoGXFkOtWefzVD9V7oV6w8F
And isn't it interesting how Africans, who receive daily assistance from the US and the Eastern Europeans, who also receive assistance but more of a political nature and who have burning memories of servitude under the Soviets, I say, isn't it interesting how they continue to rally behind the USA.
No, it's the smug former colonialists in Western Europe and Canada with their socialist naivete who do most of the shouting and whining.
So to all you anti-American crowd, let's here you explain way this survey. |
They know whose boss. Good for them! |
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Lie Bot
Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere with Seoul!!!
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[quote]For many Ivorians, America is the anti-France. Government-allied militia leaders have worn American flag bandannas and peppered their rousing speeches with English.
"For me, a French (person) is an imperialist, a terrorist," said Jonas Kouadio, a 27-year-old student. "And Americans fight against terrorists."[quote/]
Hahaha the anti-France! I'm lovin' it! That really says a lot about us and them when the cheese eating surender monkeys and the rest of Old Europe have 100s of years to get Africa on their side and everyone hates them but we don't even have much to do with them and they love us! stick that in your bongs and smoke it French loving leftists! |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Hahaha the anti-France! |
Yeah, must be French foreign policy. "Blowback" will come anytime now.
Where did you get this information, by the way? |
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Lie Bot
Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere with Seoul!!!
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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But even in northern Nigeria, as in Senegal, Mali, Ghana and other African countries, buses can be found emblazoned with American flags.
But so can Christian and Muslim sayings as well as stickers bearing the faces of Che Guevera, the pop star Madonna and Osama bin Laden. As symbols, their meanings aren't fixed � or even necessarily hint at anyone's philosophy.
One crippled beggar boy in Dakar, Senegal, wore a T-shirt with a beatific image of bin Laden while recently asking an American for a handout.
Asked about the shirt, the boy looked down quizzically at his chest and replied that it had been given to him, likely from a bale of cast-off clothing sent from overseas.
"What am I supposed to do?" he asked. "It's my only shirt!"
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Exactly what does this article prove anyway? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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One crippled beggar boy in Dakar, Senegal, wore a T-shirt with a beatific image of bin Laden while recently asking an American for a handout.
Asked about the shirt, the boy looked down quizzically at his chest and replied that it had been given to him, likely from a bale of cast-off clothing sent from overseas.
"What am I supposed to do?" he asked. "It's my only shirt!"
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Exactly what does this article prove anyway? |
Reminds me of this article:
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The Super Bowl will end about 10 p.m. Sunday, and by 10:01 every player on the winning team � along with coaches, executives, family members and ball boys � could be outfitted in colorful T-shirts and caps proclaiming them champions.
The other set of championship gear � the 288 T-shirts and caps made for the team that did not win � will be hidden behind a locked door at Dolphin Stadium. By order of the National Football League, those items are never to appear on television or on eBay. They are never even to be seen on American soil.
They will be shipped Monday morning to a warehouse in Sewickley, Pa., near Pittsburgh, where they will become property of World Vision, a relief organization that will package the clothing in wooden boxes and send it to a developing nation, usually in Africa.
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Lie Bot wrote: |
| Hahaha the anti-France! |
Yeah, must be French foreign policy. "Blowback" will come anytime now.
Where did you get this information, by the way? |
Um... wasn't C�te d'Ivoire a French colony? |
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