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mehamrick

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: EPIK New hours and OT issues. |
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So we all know EPIK has reduced the teaching hours from 25 to 22. For some of you this will not pertain to you, but to some of us that teach at two different schools ends up being a lot of OT.
So what would you do.. I know the standard rate is 20,000 for one hour. Those of you making OT right now what are you getting paid for your OT?
Would you try to teach the hours in lieu of vacation? I am not talking hour for hour. I am talking set weeks off.
This also raises the interesting question if you taught X amount of hours at your main school which would leave lets say 2 hours to teach at your other school can you be forced to do the overtime? Or do you tell those kids sorry.
I have also heard of schools trying to say they will only pay 5,000 for OT as per standard teaching pay... Although I do have an email from EPIK office stating the minimum is at least 20K..
Any other thoughts comments questions? Anyone facing this? |
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mehamrick

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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If it were because of a scheduling problem - such as there are eight classes per grade and they want you to teach each class once per week (for 24) - I would take the 20,000 per class. If it is outside 9-5 or they were going out of their way to put me over 22, I'd ask for minimum 30,000. If the students are paying money for the class - which they always do for after school classes, I'd say minimum 35,000 per 45 minutes even if it is during school day hours. Also, I want that money even if I'm well under 22 hours per week. Money in equals money me. Vacation or Saturdays is 40,000 minimum. I've gotten 45,000 before.
I negotiate each class outside the contract. If EPIK doesn't change their new 20,000 per class/6,000 per non-teaching overtime hour contract terms, I'm gone in 2008. I'd rather teach privates at my apartment for 50,000 per class. |
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mehamrick

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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marlow wrote: |
If it were because of a scheduling problem - such as there are eight classes per grade and they want you to teach each class once per week (for 24) - I would take the 20,000 per class. If it is outside 9-5 or they were going out of their way to put me over 22, I'd ask for minimum 30,000. If the students are paying money for the class - which they always do for after school classes, I'd say minimum 35,000 per 45 minutes even if it is during school day hours. Also, I want that money even if I'm well under 22 hours per week. Money in equals money me. Vacation or Saturdays is 40,000 minimum. I've gotten 45,000 before.
I negotiate each class outside the contract. If EPIK doesn't change their new 20,000 per class/6,000 per non-teaching overtime hour contract terms, I'm gone in 2008. I'd rather teach privates at my apartment for 50,000 per class. |
The extra hours as of now are just filling the the required time slots for both schools.. so each grade will have a class once a week.
They havent done after school classes here yet. I am trying to talk them into a couple a week. That is why i am trying to get an idea about what other people make for doing them.
Did you negotiate the OT pay with the school or the POE? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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mehamrick wrote: |
The extra hours as of now are just filling the the required time slots for both schools.. so each grade will have a class once a week. |
As long as you're not teaching like 30 classes, or anything retarded. Ask to see some classes once every two weeks, or maybe they should think about paying you a lot more or getting a second teacher.
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They havent done after school classes here yet. I am trying to talk them into a couple a week. That is why i am trying to get an idea about what other people make for doing them. |
35,000 minimum.
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Did you negotiate the OT pay with the school or the POE? |
Definitely with the school, and with kindness and tact. Emphasis on kindness and tact. It's best if everyone saves face, and you get the cash. The POE is always by the book because everyone is too afraid of not getting their precious promotion to do anything but say no, no, no. |
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