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stevemcgarrett
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 Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:22 am Post subject: HILLARY PANDERS TO BLACK VOTERS YET AGAIN |
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Will it ever end? The liberal circus comes to Howard University, a historically black college and immediately Hillary tries to "outblack" Obama. It would be funny if it wasn't so predictably pathetic.
Hillary doesn't need to play the race card; it's on her sleeve before she deals the first hand:
the first female candidate with a serious shot at the presidency, drew the night's largest cheer when she suggested there was a hint of racism in the way AIDS is addressed in this country.
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| Let me just put this in perspective: If HIV-AIDS were the leading cause of death of white women between the ages of 25 and 34 there would be an outraged, outcry in this country. |
Even Nedra Pickler, who reported the story for the AP observed, "In their third primary debate, the two leading candidates and their fellow Democrats played to the emotions of a predominantly black audience, fighting for a voting bloc that is crucial in the party's nomination process."
Playing to the emotions is a nice euphemism; more like pandering to base instincts. And of course she twists it all around.
Hey, Hill, baby, the reason blacks in that age group have more HIV-AIDS is because they're more promiscuous than any other ethnic/racial group. Now, dearie, I know that's not PC to say, but someone needs to nudge you back to reality. Why do you suppose blacks have the highest number of out-of-wedlock births and the lowest number of father figure households?
Ya know, I am so sick of this scare tactic. Bush plays the terrorism card, arguably a legitimate concern, and is exorciated by liberals. But when they do the same without justification with race you don't hear a peep from the mainstream media. Typical double standard once again.
Nonetheless, I would ask Hillary this:
How can you be so certain that the reaction would be different if it was young white women getting disproportionately infected with HIV? And many still are, so are they too being ignored by this administration?
Dishonest political pandering knows no bounds in the Hillary camp. Stay tuned for more gaffes and guffaws on the road to the nomination.
I'd love to see a female president--I really would. But if Hillary gets elected look for four years of the most divisive racial politics to be unleashed--mark my words.
What was it former Clinton campaign fundraiser David Geffen said? The Clintons lie with such ease it's disturbing.
You've come a long way, baby.
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| If you want to win the election you cannot afford to alienate a sizeable chunk of the population.....even you know that |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Julius wrote:
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| If you want to win the election you cannot afford to alienate a sizeable chunk of the population.....even you know that |
So Black Beauty, it's o.k. to pander to people by drawing out their phobias and assuming that all of them think alike? So if Mitt Romney put on black face and did an Al Jolson routine that would be o.k., too. Or Amos and Andy, or Homey don't play that?
Why is it o.k. to essentialize blacks but not other racial/ethnic groups? Why encourage blacks to think that HIV policy is racist when one knows it isn't or hasn't proof of it? Is this uniting Americans?
Mark my words: Hillary keeps this up and she will never get elected. She already has half of the voters alienated from her. Of course, I do hope she's the nominee as she will be an easy target.
Winning over voters should not entail shamelessly ingratiating oneself in a false way to them, either. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Every politician does this.
Exhibit 1: George Bush and stem cell research. common sense has nothing to do with it, when you are trying to get votes/appease your base. |
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spliff
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| Hillary keeps this up and she will never get elected. |
She won't cause the next election will not be won by a democrat...mark my words. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Pathetic for a politician to appeal to the interests and perspective of those who would be constituents? There are more African Americans than there are Canadians. She played the race card and got a standing ovation for it: taking a position people want to hear on an issue as they see it. How dare she!
BTW, reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer tells Bart: "Play the race card. Play it! PLAY IT!" 
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| the next election will not be won by a democrat...mark my words |
Not when the computerized system they now use to count balloting is run by a lifelong friend of the Republicans. The fix is in. |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: Re: HILLARY PANDERS TO BLACK VOTERS YET AGAIN |
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Hey, Hill, baby, the reason blacks in that age group have more HIV-AIDS is because they're more promiscuous than any other ethnic/racial group. |
So if you are promiscuous you deserve to get AIDS and die from lack of treatment?
Furthermore, I'd like you to define "promiscuous," and show me where that magical statistic you've just made up correlates to HIV.
Have you seen a chart demonstrating frequency of HIV as a function of number of partners?
I sure haven't. Do share.
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| Now, dearie, I know that's not PC to say, but someone needs to nudge you back to reality. Why do you suppose blacks have the highest number of out-of-wedlock births and the lowest number of father figure households? |
Because they put visceral pleasure above all else. They are not human. Whites are far superior.
I don't see how point A and point B have anything to do with each other unless you are reaching the conclusion I just stated. |
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Sincinnatislink
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| Furthermore, I hope I don't get my rights taken away so they can give them to all those black women. |
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Satori
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| Playing to the emotions is a nice euphemism; more like pandering to base instincts. |
And republicans don't do that ... get a grip ...  |
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cbclark4
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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No one likes to believe that racism exists in America (and elsewhere) however it is a fact of life. Those of us that ignore racism at all levels are being racist by omission.
Don't let the facts get in the way.
There is a certain passive form of racism that we don't understand.
I remember having a discussion with a friend of mine during the OJ trial about how blacks are unduly targeted, or profiled by police, I was convinced he was wrong. I went out to lunch with him that same day. We were pulled over by the cops for no apparent reason, cops said he failed to signal a turn, they gave him a warning. He put it in his glove box where there were 15 other warnings!
Sometimes we need to reflect. |
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stevemcgarrett
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Sincinn wrote:
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| I don't see how point A and point B have anything to do with each other unless you are reaching the conclusion I just stated. |
Of course you don't because you need to disabuse yourself of such linear thinking--it's too literalist.
My point, Sunshine, is that one stands a greater risk of contracting HIV if one has multiple partners. Promiscuity is rampant in much of the black community. Young blacks aren't more susceptible to HIV because of genetics but increasingly irresponsible behavior. A glimpse at the racial breakdown of the 2000 Census clearly shows this: 72% of children born out-of-wedlock and 60% with no fathers at home. These numbers are staggering and far exceed the era when Jim Crow ruled. In other words, blacks have no one to blame for this problem but themselves. Now I realize as a liberal that you are always in search of victimhood, but do try to put the blame where it belongs.
And by the way, are all the government officials who hold the pursestrings for HIV research racist? Aren't some of them minorities?
Get back to me when you can account for the stats, otherwise you're blowing smoke out of your azz.
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| She played the race card and got a standing ovation for it: taking a position people want to hear on an issue as they see it. How dare she! |
No, what's audacious is that she knows better and doesn't care. She always talks of taking the moral high ground but she's right down there in the mud with the rest of 'em. |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
My point, Sunshine, is that one stands a greater risk of contracting HIV if one has multiple partners. Promiscuity is rampant in much of the black community.
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Multiple partners != promiscuity. Have you slept with more than one person? Is there a number of partners that makes you a bad AIDS person? Is there a continuum of sluttiness?
I asked for a pretty specific definition and you are dishing out verbal abuse.
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Young blacks aren't more susceptible to HIV because of genetics but increasingly irresponsible behavior. A glimpse at the racial breakdown of the 2000 Census clearly shows this: 72% of children born out-of-wedlock and 60% with no fathers at home.
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What do out-of-wedlock births have to do with AIDS?
I mean, if you could even cite a stat saying that blacks are less likely to use contraception, or something along those lines, we could talk. But instead you call upon some fuzzy "irresponsible behavior" claim. Which means absolutely nothing. And it makes it absolutely impossible to even engage you.
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These numbers are staggering and far exceed the era when Jim Crow ruled.
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So let me get this straight. There is a connection between single-parent households and AIDS?
You want to link me to a stat?
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In other words, blacks have no one to blame for this problem but themselves.
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What problem? Getting AIDS? Are you listening to yourself?
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Now I realize as a liberal that you are always in search of victimhood, but do try to put the blame where it belongs.
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You are qvery much more a liberal than I am.
Stop making assumptions, and learn something about political philosophy.
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And by the way, are all the government officials who hold the pursestrings for HIV research racist? Aren't some of them minorities?
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I honestly have no idea what this has to do with anything. It sounds like you are trying to discredit medical research by claiming that blacks are in control of adequate resources to mislead the medical community at large. Yes, there is a huge conspiracy in the Federal government to keep us from finding out that AIDS is all over because blacks are terrible people.
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You sound like a retard.
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Get back to me when you can account for the stats, otherwise you're blowing smoke out of your azz.
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What stats? The stats you've given tell me absolutely nothing. I'm not even sure what the hell you're trying to claim.
Do black people like to *beep*? Sure, so do I. I'm guessing you do, as well. Do people who *beep* a lot deserve to get AIDS? Just the black ones?
Tell me. Pretty please. And do people who get AIDS deserve to die?
And what the *beep* do single-parent households have to do with HIV?
I really want to know. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Sincinn drooled:
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| Do black people like to *beep*? Sure, so do I. I'm guessing you do, as well. Do people who *beep* a lot deserve to get AIDS? Just the black ones? Tell me. Pretty please. And do people who get AIDS deserve to die? |
You sure have a way of twisting words. I said that promiscuous blacks don't have anyone to blame but themselves, meaning if they contract HIV. Nowhere did I say or intimate that blacks or anyone else deserves to get HIV. Are you that obtuse or just being disingenuous for the sake of argument?
Look, risky sexual behavior often if not usually includes an unwillingness to wear condoms or otherwise protect oneself. Numerous accounts of the strong tendency of many young black males to resist using protection have been widely reported. I'm not going to take the time to look for the evidence for you. Retrieve it yourself. I lived and worked in a lower income black community in a large inner city area for more than a decade and I often heard this said. Now, granted, that's anecdotal but shouldn't be discounted on that basis alone.
Conservative black commentators like radio talk show host Ken Hamblin, who goes by the on-air name "The Black Avenger," has been lamenting this for years--and there are others out there. Some black commentators even go so far as to call it a moral malaise--an illness of conscience among many blacks. Just look at the gangsta rap and hip-hop. It exudes this sort of irresponsible behavior.
And let's not forget what triggered my observation in the first place: Hillary Clinton's reckless insinuation that if it weren't blacks getting HIV disproportionately, the government would be doing more research and spending more money on HIV awareness. Rubbish. |
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khyber
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| what's audacious is that she knows better and doesn't care. She always talks of taking the moral high ground but she's right down there in the mud with the rest of 'em. |
Fill in the blank quiz:
So what, she should take a page out of the Republican playbook and ....______? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope, that dog don't hunt...she's dhimicrat so she's gonna fumble and tumble. Republicans do the the running...no switching roles, that's not cricket! |
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