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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: Excellent Rant From Keith Olberman |
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It's an excerpt. Click the link to read the whole thing.
Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign
I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.
I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.
I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but to stifle dissent.
I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.
If justice exists in America, impeachment is the next word on our lips.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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The US ought to end the war - just as soon as the bathists , the Khomeni followers and the Al Qaedists give up theirs.
that is what Mr Olberman left out of his message. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Ah yes the great Baathist war against the West--I remember well the amphibious landings at Athens and Brindisi--the two pronged push through the Balkans and Apennines, the cataclysmic Battle of the Alps.
Many neo-Stalinist apparatchiks fell that day.
And who can forget the naval engagements off Bermuda? What a fleet the US destroyed! The Syrian Navy was second to none--until that fateful day, eh brothers and sisters? Eh?! Long live the scions of Prescott Bush!!!!!!!
What a victory for liberal democracy, though, no?. Thank the gods for Bush's resolve in spending $500 billion against a tangential and marginalized state, if only to ensure no Baathist army will ever invade our shores again.
That's rich. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
Ah yes the great Baathist war against the West--I remember well the amphibious landings at Athens and Brindisi--the two pronged push through the Balkans and Apennines, the cataclysmic Battle of the Alps.
Many neo-Stalinist apparatchiks fell that day.
And who can forget the naval engagements off Bermuda? What a fleet the US destroyed! The Syrian Navy was second to none--until that fateful day, eh brothers and sisters? Eh?! Long live the scions of Prescott Bush!!!!!!!
What a victory for liberal democracy, though, no?. Thank the gods for Bush's resolve in spending $500 billion against a tangential and marginalized state, if only to ensure no Baathist army will ever invade our shores again.
That's rich. |
ROTFLMAO
That's the best belly laugh I've had in days... |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Ah yes the great Baathist war against the West--I remember well the amphibious landings at Athens and Brindisi--the two pronged push through the Balkans and Apennines, the cataclysmic Battle of the Alps.
Many neo-Stalinist apparatchiks fell that day.
And who can forget the naval engagements off Bermuda? What a fleet the US destroyed! The Syrian Navy was second to none--until that fateful day, eh brothers and sisters? Eh?! Long live the scions of Prescott Bush!!!!!!!
What a victory for liberal democracy, though, no?. Thank the gods for Bush's resolve in spending $500 billion against a tangential and marginalized state, if only to ensure no Baathist army will ever invade our shores again. |
I know I was scared that afternoon. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes the great Baathist war against the West--I remember well the amphibious landings at Athens and Brindisi--the two pronged push through the Balkans and Apennines, the cataclysmic Battle of the Alps.
Many neo-Stalinist apparatchiks fell that day.
And who can forget the naval engagements off Bermuda? What a fleet the US destroyed! The Syrian Navy was second to none--until that fateful day, eh brothers and sisters? Eh?! Long live the scions of Prescott Bush!!!!!!!
What a victory for liberal democracy, though, no?. Thank the gods for Bush's resolve in spending $500 billion against a tangential and marginalized state, if only to ensure no Baathist army will ever invade our shores again.
That's rich. |
Absolutely brilliant. I applaud your post even though my entire family was wiped out by Bathists in the battle of Stratford upon Avon.  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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[jkelly80"]Ah yes the great Baathist war against the West--I remember well the amphibious landings at Athens and Brindisi--the two pronged push through the Balkans and Apennines, the cataclysmic Battle of the Alps.
Many neo-Stalinist apparatchiks fell that day.
And who can forget the naval engagements off Bermuda? What a fleet the US destroyed! The Syrian Navy was second to none--until that fateful day, eh brothers and sisters? Eh?! Long live the scions of Prescott Bush!!!!!!!
What a victory for liberal democracy, though, no?. Thank the gods for Bush's resolve in spending $500 billion against a tangential and marginalized state, if only to ensure [i]no Baathist army will ever invade our shores again. |
That is worthy of Michael Moore and it is more or less his argument the trouble is it ignores that Saddam
shot at US planes.
continued to threaten Kuwait.
He tried to kill a US president.
And his regime incited violence and taught hate. That mideast regimes teach hate and incite violence is the major cause of terrorism.
and of course Saddam was not only not in complence of the terms of the first gulf war cease fire , his regime also had lots of materials that he it is was not permitted to have.
The US never invaded Iraq just to invade Iraq. The US invaded Iraq to invade the middle east after 9-11 cause the middle east as it was was a threat to the US .
But just in case
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| That this�his pro-American moment�was the worst Moore could possibly say of Saddam's depravity is further suggested by some astonishing falsifications. Moore asserts that Iraq under Saddam had never attacked or killed or even threatened (his words) any American. I never quite know whether Moore is as ignorant as he looks, or even if that would be humanly possible. Baghdad was for years the official, undisguised home address of Abu Nidal, then the most-wanted gangster in the world, who had been sentenced to death even by the PLO and had blown up airports in Vienna* and Rome. Baghdad was the safe house for the man whose "operation" murdered Leon Klinghoffer. Saddam boasted publicly of his financial sponsorship of suicide bombers in Israel. (Quite a few Americans of all denominations walk the streets of Jerusalem.) In 1991, a large number of Western hostages were taken by the hideous Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and held in terrible conditions for a long time. After that same invasion was repelled�Saddam having killed quite a few Americans and Egyptians and Syrians and Brits in the meantime and having threatened to kill many more�the Iraqi secret police were caught trying to murder former President Bush during his visit to Kuwait. Never mind whether his son should take that personally. (Though why should he not?) Should you and I not resent any foreign dictatorship that attempts to kill one of our retired chief executives? (President Clinton certainly took it that way: He ordered the destruction by cruise missiles of the Baathist "security" headquarters.) Iraqi forces fired, every day, for 10 years, on the aircraft that patrolled the no-fly zones and staved off further genocide in the north and south of the country. In 1993, a certain Mr. Yasin helped mix the chemicals for the bomb at the World Trade Center and then skipped to Iraq, where he remained a guest of the state until the overthrow of Saddam. In 2001, Saddam's regime was the only one in the region that openly celebrated the attacks on New York and Washington and described them as just the beginning of a larger revenge. Its official media regularly spewed out a stream of anti-Semitic incitement. I think one might describe that as "threatening," even if one was narrow enough to think that anti-Semitism only menaces Jews. And it was after, and not before, the 9/11 attacks that Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi moved from Afghanistan to Baghdad and began to plan his now very open and lethal design for a holy and ethnic civil war. On Dec. 1, 2003, the New York Times reported�and the David Kay report had established�that Saddam had been secretly negotiating with the "Dear Leader" Kim Jong-il in a series of secret meetings in Syria, as late as the spring of 2003, to buy a North Korean missile system, and missile-production system, right off the shelf. (This attempt was not uncovered until after the fall of Baghdad, the coalition's presence having meanwhile put an end to the negotiations.) |
http://slate.com/id/2102723/
Is there anything here that is not so?
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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They shot at US planes that were flying over Iraq.  |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee"]
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[jkelly80"]
That is worthy of Michael Moore and it is more or less his argument the trouble is it ignores that Saddam
shot at US planes.
continued to threaten Kuwait.
He tried to kill a US president.
And his regime incited violence and taught hate. That mideast regimes teach hate and incite violence is the major cause of terrorism.
and of course Saddam was not only not in complence of the terms of the first gulf war cease fire , his regime also had lots of materials that he it is was not permitted to have.
The US never invaded Iraq just to invade Iraq. The US invaded Iraq to invade the middle east after 9-11 cause the middle east as it was was a threat to the US .
Is there anything here that is not so?
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A threat to the United States? To St. Louis? To Kansas City? To Baltimore/St. Paul/etc...Give me a break. HUSSEIN WAS NOT A WAHABIST, he wanted nothing to do with Bin Laden or his organization. What we are doing over there is nation-building in a state without a nation. Iraq was never a cohesive national entity, probably the most fractious nation in the region save for Iran. I understand the advantageous location of Iraq, but there were a host of ways to go about regime change in Iraq, and we picked the worst. |
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pharflung
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Happy Fourth of Juy, everyone.
Let me know when it is safe to go home. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Happy Fourth of Juy, everyone.
Let me know when it is safe to go home. |
Hehe! |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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A threat to the United States? To St. Louis? To Kansas City? To Baltimore/St. Paul/etc...Give me a break. HUSSEIN WAS NOT A WAHABIST, he wanted nothing to do with Bin Laden or his organization. What we are doing over there is nation-building in a state without a nation. Iraq was never a cohesive national entity, probably the most fractious nation in the region save for Iran. I understand the advantageous location of Iraq, but there were a host of ways to go about regime change in Iraq, and we picked the worst.[/quote]
The mid east at it was a threat to the US.
what other ways could the US change the mideast? |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| How about by leaving them alone, finding something else to put in our cars and leaving them to go to hell in whatever they choose? |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Unbelievable. "Concealing Saddam's ties to terrorism," "extensive terrorism activities," "nation with a record of terrorism," "Iraq continued to cooperate with terrorists," "poison gas," "gas attacks," "nuclear weapons program," "weapons of mass destruction," "advanced weapons of mass destruction," "global procurement network." |
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