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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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seoulunitarian:
Your method uses hypnosis, doesn't it? I think you know that hypnosis can increase suggestibility, leading subjects to be less critical and more accepting of notions than they would normally be. Related to this is the issue of false memories obtained through hypnosis. Given this, shouldn't acceptance of, and experiences with, other-worldly guides experienced under hypnosis be looked at skeptically? |
No, no. He's a doctor. You can trust him unquestioningly. |
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therooster
Joined: 11 May 2007
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I have one simple question .
why are aliens , angels , jesus and gods so stupid that they never visit anyone with any credibility ?
Why visit the wierd people on the fringes of society who no-one will ever take seriously ? Visit the world leaders you idiots !
Maybe it's just me...but the same people smart enough to conquer the complexities of inter-gallatic space travel being this dumb is just slighly less plausible than the other possible notion ...ie : you're full of it . |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Why visit the wierd people on the fringes of society who no-one will ever take seriously ? Visit the world leaders you idiots ! |
It's possible that they do, but that people in authority don't want to risk losing their status and credibility by sharing weird stories that would have people questioning their sanity.
It's not probable, but it's possible. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Martin Gardner tells us that people who claim extraterrestrial encounters tend to claim other supernatural experiences also.
Gardner has made a study of such claimants and found that they are just as sane as anyone else.
Rather, Gardner devises the term fantasy prone.
But we can turn it around and say that extraterrestrials and other entities tend to select the same people.
There is nothing in Gardner's study which proves that they don't.
Please, I am not saying that I believe Seoul Unitarian's story,
I am merely saying that I am a skeptic, not a debunker. |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: re: |
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| According to Yeshua, you will be reincarnated as many times as it takes for your soul to reach reunion with the Universal Spirit. Your disembodied soul, in the vehicle of your astral body, will travel to the home planet of Father and Mother. There, your soul, Father and Mother will decide the experiences you will live through in your next incarnation. |
Are you simplifying what you heard, or is that what you actually heard?
It's a dog-eat-dog world in this neighborhood of the universe. Be careful. |
Dear arjuna,
Those are the exact thoughts that were relayed to me by Yeshua. By the way, my newly published book, The Fellowship of Yeshua: Communing With Your Ascended Soul Guides contains the teachings of Yeshua and meditative methods for attaining spiritual awakening and entering into communion with an ET guide.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne, Emissary
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: re: |
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| therooster wrote: |
I have one simple question .
why are aliens , angels , jesus and gods so stupid that they never visit anyone with any credibility ?
Why visit the wierd people on the fringes of society who no-one will ever take seriously ? Visit the world leaders you idiots !
Maybe it's just me...but the same people smart enough to conquer the complexities of inter-gallatic space travel being this dumb is just slighly less plausible than the other possible notion ...ie : you're full of it . |
If a world leader claimed to have contact with ETs, would he not then be considered on the fringe?
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne, Emissary
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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This is just Daniels' latest thing. Looking back on his postings will reveal a long search for some kind of faith. I'm sure it will pass.
It is pretty weird though. Seems like his faith is a cut & paste from many different beliefs. Selecting whichever component of each that serves him as he is, not as he wants to be. Affirming himself instead of searching for himself.
Anyone else think that Daniel wants to be some kind of oddball leader like Moon or even more extreme, Koresh? Perhaps we will find out in time what will become of him and his ideas, but as I opened with, I think it's just his latest spiritual 'thing'. |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: re: |
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This is just Daniels' latest thing. Looking back on his postings will reveal a long search for some kind of faith. I'm sure it will pass.
It is pretty weird though. Seems like his faith is a cut & paste from many different beliefs. Selecting whichever component of each that serves him as he is, not as he wants to be. Affirming himself instead of searching for himself.
Anyone else think that Daniel wants to be some kind of oddball leader like Moon or even more extreme, Koresh? Perhaps we will find out in time what will become of him and his ideas, but as I opened with, I think it's just his latest spiritual 'thing'. |
Spirituality is a journey. I am not ashamed of searching in the past, nor will I be ashamed of doing the same in the future.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne, Emissary
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: re: |
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| seoulunitarian wrote: |
Spirituality is a journey. I am not ashamed of searching in the past, nor will I be ashamed of doing the same in the future.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne, Emissary
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
I said nothing of shame.
I am interested in how you decided on your doctrine though. Quite the amalgam.
I also think it's interesting how every time the wind blows your faith in a new direction, you completely cast yourself into it. You post, proclaim, make webpages, but then suddenly, its over. Not that commitment is wrong, but your need to tell everyone about your latest thing so resolutely, when in fact it is anything but, is quite interesting.
I can understand being lost spiritually, but you seem absolutely bent on being spiritual, say as one would desire to be a great saxaphone player or something. For you, is it a calling or a desire?
Do you want to lead a cult? Is that what all this is about? Nothing else fits you so you dream up your own? Sorry man, but this looks like that. You go to some wacky school to get your doctorate, to validate the leadership you desire...freaky to me.
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| More importantly, did you use your PHD in Jabberwoky Studies to get your job here? |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: re: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| seoulunitarian wrote: |
Spirituality is a journey. I am not ashamed of searching in the past, nor will I be ashamed of doing the same in the future.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne, Emissary
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
I said nothing of shame.
I am interested in how you decided on your doctrine though. Quite the amalgam.
I also think it's interesting how every time the wind blows your faith in a new direction, you completely cast yourself into it. You post, proclaim, make webpages, but then suddenly, its over. Not that commitment is wrong, but your need to tell everyone about your latest thing so resolutely, when in fact it is anything but, is quite interesting.
I can understand being lost spiritually, but you seem absolutely bent on being spiritual, say as one would desire to be a great saxaphone player or something. For you, is it a calling or a desire?
Do you want to lead a cult? Is that what all this is about? Nothing else fits you so you dream up your own? Sorry man, but this looks like that. You go to some wacky school to get your doctorate, to validate the leadership you desire...freaky to me. |
I suppose it would only appear that way to someone who is stuck in a certain paradigm. I do not consider what I have come from in the past to have changed. Rather, I view those things as "turns" on the singular path of spiritual awakening. It is not that the former is necessarily false, just that moving along a spiritual path necessitates that I actually move.
My only concern is helping people reach spiritual awakening.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: re: |
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| hubba bubba wrote: |
| More importantly, did you use your PHD in Jabberwoky Studies to get your job here? |
I obtained my job with a Bachelors Degree in Religious Education from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, a regionally accredited school.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
This is just Daniels' latest thing. Looking back on his postings will reveal a long search for some kind of faith. I'm sure it will pass.
It is pretty weird though. Seems like his faith is a cut & paste from many different beliefs. Selecting whichever component of each that serves him as he is, not as he wants to be. Affirming himself instead of searching for himself.
Anyone else think that Daniel wants to be some kind of oddball leader like Moon or even more extreme, Koresh? Perhaps we will find out in time what will become of him and his ideas, but as I opened with, I think it's just his latest spiritual 'thing'. |
I doubt it. SeoulUnitarian seems more concerned about selling books, CDs, DVDs, etc. so as to spread the New Gospel. He doesn't seem inclined to tell people to come to his church, make donations, or live with him in a compound where they'll stockpile AK-47s to make a final stand against the puppets of a reawakened Xenu.
I am, as I hinted at before, concerned about people self-hynotizing. I think that hypnosis should be undertaken with a trained professional present. |
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huck
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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do you have any photos or videos?
if not, could you ask them to pose next time you physically meet them? |
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