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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Pyeongchang had hoped to follow the example Seoul set in 1988 when it became the first mainland Asian host of the Summer Olympics. Earlier this year, South Korea won the right to stage the 2011 athletics world championships in Daegu and the 2014 Asian Games in Incheon. |
This was the killer.
It is the unofficial (but announced and long standing policy) of the I.O.C. to NOT award an Olympic event to a country in the same year that they host an INTERNATIONAL event of this scale. (Asian games, Pan-Am games, Commonwealth games, etc)
This easily cost them 10-15 votes or more in the final vote and certainly cost them the bid. BLAME INCHEON!!! |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I just don�t understand why on Earth would they put the Olympics a stone's throw away from Chechnya, right smack dab in the middle of one of the world's most volatile, explosive regions. That's asking for trouble. |
It's not unprecedented to award the olympic games to countries in volatile regions; The 88 games were awarded to a country still technically at war during the Cold War while the host city itself was less than an hour by car from one of the most dangerous borders in the world. Coupled with that the country was experiencing massive political change which threatened to engulf the streets with massive demonstrations bordering on chaos. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Why have I never heard of the cities they hold winter olympics in? Its a pity because if it was in korea theres a 20% chance I might watch that borefest. Hard luck to the blighters. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Why have I never heard of the cities they hold winter olympics in? Its a pity because if it was in korea theres a 20% chance I might watch that borefest. Hard luck to the blighters. |
The winter olympics are much more exciting than the summer olympics. In the summer, is there really the need to have the 800, 1000, 1001.5 metre runs? There are too many events. |
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jvalmer
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"It's almost like being stabbed in the back," Pyeongchang development director Jeon Yong-kwan said.
"I don't get it. We have worked for years to improve our previous bid. We did everything the IOC asked of us. It wasn't just a show." |
This is when Koreans annoy me; when they can take their reaction beyond feelings of dissapointment to the the blame game. This decision calls for introspection not casting aspertions on others.
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Give me a break. They interview the guy a few minutes after the decision, of course they are going to react that way.
But every bid committee, that has ever won some major event, plays the same game of shady under the table the deals. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Why have I never heard of the cities they hold winter olympics in? Its a pity because if it was in korea theres a 20% chance I might watch that borefest. Hard luck to the blighters. |
The winter olympics are much more exciting than the summer olympics. In the summer, is there really the need to have the 800, 1000, 1001.5 metre runs? There are too many events. |
They are both about as exciting as watching paint dry. The winter olympics are held in pretty out of the way spots though. I do like the middle/long distance running however. Haille Gabri selassie(sp) was the only guy I used to tune in for in the olympics. The only guy out of hundreds of events. |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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People I know who came to korea for world cup were dissappointed that they could not communicate here with anyone. Plus the rudeness factor. Its no wonder Russia beat out korea. Putin spoke in english and Roh? Maybe the translator said something wrong.  |
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mt01ap
Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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Russia never had the winter Olympics despite holding 293 Olympic medals. However, they did have the 1980 Summer Olympics, the Olympics the Yanks boycotted.
My vote was for austria, they already had all the venues set up |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Why have I never heard of the cities they hold winter olympics in? Its a pity because if it was in korea theres a 20% chance I might watch that borefest. Hard luck to the blighters. |
The winter olympics are much more exciting than the summer olympics. In the summer, is there really the need to have the 800, 1000, 1001.5 metre runs? There are too many events. |
They are both about as exciting as watching paint dry. The winter olympics are held in pretty out of the way spots though. I do like the middle/long distance running however. Haille Gabri selassie(sp) was the only guy I used to tune in for in the olympics. The only guy out of hundreds of events. |
Well, one of the reason (I think) that winter sports are held in out of the way places is because cities aren't generally wilderness, which is what the winter olympics needs. This isn't always the case, but most larger known cities aren't out in the mountains. |
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Jarome_Turner
Joined: 10 Sep 2004
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| Kind of disapointing as it would have given a makeover to parts of the country. Also would've made life slightly easier for English speaking foriegners not just during, but after the game as well. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Kind of disapointing as it would have given a makeover to parts of the country. Also would've made life slightly easier for English speaking foriegners not just during, but after the game as well. |
Probably could have pulled in massive coin in 2013 with people trying to scramble to get their English up to par as well. Kind of like in Beijing this year. |
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Jarome_Turner
Joined: 10 Sep 2004
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| Kind of disapointing as it would have given a makeover to parts of the country. Also would've made life slightly easier for English speaking foriegners not just during, but after the game as well. |
Probably could have pulled in massive coin in 2013 with people trying to scramble to get their English up to par as well. Kind of like in Beijing this year. |
Ya. Not to mention that hockey tickets would've been a hell of lot easier to come across than they will be in Vancouver in 2010. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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what do you expect when you have Roh speaking to them. The guy is a moron.
Korea this what you get for electing the accidential president
BTW I wonder how much the debacle of the 2002 world cup played into it. they were not prepared for it plus nobody went to the matches other than the korea ones. |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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 Just saw the reaction of those people in pyoeonchang. Those same people who hate foreigners crying that foreigners are not coming in 2014! |
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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Doesn't the Korean president speak English?
Speaking only in Korean when you're in a tight race with a country whose president gives his first-ever speech in English (with French and Spanish included as well) is... foolhardy.
Roh Mu Hyun's legacy  |
Putin schooled Noh:
"Putin being here was very important," said French IOC member and former ski champion Jean-Claude Killy. "He worked very hard at it. He was nice. He spoke French - he never speaks French. He spoke English - he never speaks English.
"The Putin charisma can explain four votes."
Pyeongchang led the first round with 36 votes, followed by Sochi with 34 and Salzburg with 25. Sochi picked up 17 votes in the second round to secure the victory.
"The captain of our team today raised our team to a completely different level," Russian sports chief Vyacheslav Fetisov said of Putin.
The Putin magic matched Blair's influence on London's victory in the race for the 2012 Summer Olympics. Blair was instrumental in wooing IOC members in Singapore in 2005, helping London defeat Paris, Madrid, New York and Moscow. Putin did not travel to Singapore for Moscow's bid, which lost in the first round.
"If Putin is not here, I think it would be different results," said IOC executive board member Sergei Bubka, a Ukrainian who won a pole vault gold medal for the Soviet Union at the 1988 Seoul Olympics. "He did a fantastic presentation - his speeches, his communication with people these last few days. They were very impressed about his personality, his intelligence. I think this final touch made the difference."
U.S. member Jim Easton also said Putin might have swung the decisive votes - including by making his presentation in English, breaking with his practise of speaking in Russian.
"I think people were surprised; I was surprised he came out and spoke in English," Easton said. "It's those little things that sometimes switch some people who are on the line over. This reminds me of the Tony Blair scenario."
http://tsn.ca/olympics/news_story/?ID=212767&hubname= |
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