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Newbie

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: Why is basketball NOT Canadian? |
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Lots of folks here are always angry that Canadians claim basketball was invented by a Canadian. Why?
Is it because Naismith lived in the US? Or is it because there was a similar game happening in Central America before James did his thing?
(wikipedia says it was invented by a Canadian) |
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Canadian Club
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Heritage Minutes says it was Canadian. |
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darkhorse_NZ

Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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apparently it was invented by a Canadian in the US for American students but based on a Canadian children's game, unless you can ask Naismith himself it seems up for grabs. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Maybe because Americans are better at it. |
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darkhorse_NZ

Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Maybe because Americans are better at it. |
then why are cricket and rugby english?
let's wait for the pommy backlash |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Maybe because Americans are better at it. |
The last 3 MVP's have been non-Americans. A Canadian, Steve Nash, won two of them. Dirk Nowitski, a German, won the other. |
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mikowee

Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I prefer that it's considered an American sport. It's embarrassing to suck so bad at a sport that's supposedley ours (excepting Nash). |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, so?! And hockey was invented by the English. Or maybe by the Irish or Scottish. Or maybe by the Continentals. |
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Are they the lemmings

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Hey! Don't forget to give Willie the militant janitor his due credit! |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I read somewhere that basketball was invented by an employee in a YMCA.
They used a real basket.
Everyone got tired of climbing up on a stepladder to get the ball every time someone made a basket, so the cut a hole in the bottom.
That created another problem: disputes over who did and did not make a basket.
So they attached a net to the basket.
My source did not say whethere the employee was American or Canadian, or whether the YMCA was in the United States or Canada.
I also read somewhere that volleyball was invented in a YMCA. |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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It's no more Canadian than Titanic was a Canadian move. Titanic was directed by a Canadian living in America using American money for an American studio for a largely American audience. Basketball was invented by a Canadian in the USA working in the USA and designed for American inner city youth. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Maybe because Americans are better at it. |
The last 3 MVP's have been non-Americans. A Canadian, Steve Nash, won two of them. Dirk Nowitski, a German, won the other. |
I got 2 words. Michael Jordan. |
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congee
Joined: 08 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
It's no more Canadian than Titanic was a Canadian move. Titanic was directed by a Canadian living in America using American money for an American studio for a largely American audience. Basketball was invented by a Canadian in the USA working in the USA and designed for American inner city youth. |
So if you're living in a foreign country then you automatically become a national of that country? I guess that makes you a Korean.
The guy who invented basketball was Canadian. Why is that so hard for some people (i.e. some Americans) to acknowledge? |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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congee wrote: |
mindmetoo wrote: |
It's no more Canadian than Titanic was a Canadian move. Titanic was directed by a Canadian living in America using American money for an American studio for a largely American audience. Basketball was invented by a Canadian in the USA working in the USA and designed for American inner city youth. |
So if you're living in a foreign country then you automatically become a national of that country? I guess that makes you a Korean.
The guy who invented basketball was Canadian. Why is that so hard for some people (i.e. some Americans) to acknowledge? |
Yep. Also, a Canadian invented the lightbulb, but sold the patent to Edison. American's have been skimming off Canadian ingenuity for centuries!  |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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In early December 1891, Dr. James Naismith, a Canadian physical education student and instructor at YMCA Training School[1] (today, Springfield College) in Springfield, Massachusetts, USA, sought a vigorous indoor game to keep his students occupied and at proper levels of fitness during the long New England winters.
incorporated rules from a Canadian children's game called "Duck on a Rock",
Basketball, netball, dodgeball, volleyball, and lacrosse are the only ball games which have been identified as being invented by North Americans |
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