Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Why is basketball NOT Canadian?
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: Why is basketball NOT Canadian? Reply with quote

Lots of folks here are always angry that Canadians claim basketball was invented by a Canadian. Why?

Is it because Naismith lived in the US? Or is it because there was a similar game happening in Central America before James did his thing?

(wikipedia says it was invented by a Canadian)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Canadian Club



Joined: 12 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heritage Minutes says it was Canadian.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

apparently it was invented by a Canadian in the US for American students but based on a Canadian children's game, unless you can ask Naismith himself it seems up for grabs.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe because Americans are better at it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Maybe because Americans are better at it.


then why are cricket and rugby english? Laughing

let's wait for the pommy backlash
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Maybe because Americans are better at it.


The last 3 MVP's have been non-Americans. A Canadian, Steve Nash, won two of them. Dirk Nowitski, a German, won the other.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mikowee



Joined: 03 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer that it's considered an American sport. It's embarrassing to suck so bad at a sport that's supposedley ours (excepting Nash).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, so?! And hockey was invented by the English. Or maybe by the Irish or Scottish. Or maybe by the Continentals.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Are they the lemmings



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey! Don't forget to give Willie the militant janitor his due credit!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that basketball was invented by an employee in a YMCA.
They used a real basket.
Everyone got tired of climbing up on a stepladder to get the ball every time someone made a basket, so the cut a hole in the bottom.
That created another problem: disputes over who did and did not make a basket.
So they attached a net to the basket.
My source did not say whethere the employee was American or Canadian, or whether the YMCA was in the United States or Canada.

I also read somewhere that volleyball was invented in a YMCA.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no more Canadian than Titanic was a Canadian move. Titanic was directed by a Canadian living in America using American money for an American studio for a largely American audience. Basketball was invented by a Canadian in the USA working in the USA and designed for American inner city youth.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
Maybe because Americans are better at it.


The last 3 MVP's have been non-Americans. A Canadian, Steve Nash, won two of them. Dirk Nowitski, a German, won the other.


I got 2 words. Michael Jordan.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
congee



Joined: 08 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
It's no more Canadian than Titanic was a Canadian move. Titanic was directed by a Canadian living in America using American money for an American studio for a largely American audience. Basketball was invented by a Canadian in the USA working in the USA and designed for American inner city youth.


So if you're living in a foreign country then you automatically become a national of that country? I guess that makes you a Korean.

The guy who invented basketball was Canadian. Why is that so hard for some people (i.e. some Americans) to acknowledge?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

congee wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
It's no more Canadian than Titanic was a Canadian move. Titanic was directed by a Canadian living in America using American money for an American studio for a largely American audience. Basketball was invented by a Canadian in the USA working in the USA and designed for American inner city youth.


So if you're living in a foreign country then you automatically become a national of that country? I guess that makes you a Korean.

The guy who invented basketball was Canadian. Why is that so hard for some people (i.e. some Americans) to acknowledge?


Yep. Also, a Canadian invented the lightbulb, but sold the patent to Edison. American's have been skimming off Canadian ingenuity for centuries! Twisted Evil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....................

In early December 1891, Dr. James Naismith, a Canadian physical education student and instructor at YMCA Training School[1] (today, Springfield College) in Springfield, Massachusetts, USA, sought a vigorous indoor game to keep his students occupied and at proper levels of fitness during the long New England winters.

incorporated rules from a Canadian children's game called "Duck on a Rock",

Basketball, netball, dodgeball, volleyball, and lacrosse are the only ball games which have been identified as being invented by North Americans
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International