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desperation



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Curious about Adoption Reply with quote

I'd never have my own kids, I'd only adopt. I have always felt that it was a crime to make more kids when there's millions who cry themsleves to sleep every night. It always seemed criminal to me, I guess I'm a cabage patch kid generation dude or something. Anyway, I know Americans buy korean kids for like 15-20k and have them mailed over. What's the deal if you're an American teaching in Korea? I'd be too busy and broke my 1st year but I plan my life VERY VERY carefully and long in advance. I know I'm not waiting for a woman (I'm a man) and I know I'm not getting a Korean either. I'd most likely get a half black kid (partially because blacks are the least adopted worldwide). Can anyone let me know the dilly-o?
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SeoulShakin



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a lot of countries are making their adoption policies much stricter now. Some, for example, prefer you to be under a certain age, you can't be single, and must have been married for over 3 years I believe, and you have to have the money of course. I doubt that as a single man you would have an easy go of things. If you're serious about it, it's worth a shot, but I feel as though you'd have a very hard time, if not be told a flat out no.
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desperation



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulShakin wrote:
I know a lot of countries are making their adoption policies much stricter now. Some, for example, prefer you to be under a certain age, you can't be single, and must have been married for over 3 years I believe, and you have to have the money of course. I doubt that as a single man you would have an easy go of things. If you're serious about it, it's worth a shot, but I feel as though you'd have a very hard time, if not be told a flat out no.


Yeah, I know.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rmember reading that the government is trying to encourage adoptions within Korea. They have also tightened rules for foreigners...I did come across this piece of interesting news

Adoption ban on obese
By Hannah Davies
June 24, 2007 12:00am

OVERWEIGHT couples desperate to adopt are being told they are too fat to make good parents.

Governments in South Korea, Taiwan and China have banned obese couples from adopting because they want "the most stable and harmonious environment" for children.

South Korean and Taiwanese guidelines say couples with a Body Mass Index of 30 are unacceptable.

China recently introduced a similar rule for people with a BMI of 40.

BMI is calculated by dividing a person's weight in kilograms by their height in metres, squared.

All Queenslanders with a BMI of 30 wanting to adopt have tests for cholesterol and diabetes regardless of the country involved.

The restrictions have outraged support groups and doctors, who say they are discriminatory because BMI is not a good indicator of health.

International Adoptive Families of Queensland president Sharon Byerley said: "What they are saying is that overweight people can't be good parents. The countries know there are a lot of people who want to adopt and so they are able to pick and choose who they want.

"It's very sad for couples who are desperate to have a child."

Many couples choose to adopt from overseas because the waiting list is shorter than in Australia.

About 15 South Korean children and five each from China and Taiwan are adopted by Queenslanders every year.

Surgeon Douglas Nicholson, of Brisbane's Sunnybank Obesity Centre, said a hip-to-waist ratio was a better indicator of health.

"Many people with a BMI of 30 are perfectly healthy and would make fabulous parents," he said.

But Steve Finkel, president of support group the Australian Korean Friendship Group, said it was a country's right to impose restrictions.

"The child has already suffered one major crisis by being put up for adoption," he said.
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desperation



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely support this ban on obese people adopting. How can you trust someone to raise children right when they can't even raise themselves? It's like giving a child to an anneorexic or a compulsive shopper. If you can't control your impulses and your health suffers.......you aren't responsible. Period. None of this genetic big-boned nonsesne.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

desperation wrote:
I definitely support this ban on obese people adopting. How can you trust someone to raise children right when they can't even raise themselves? It's like giving a child to an anneorexic or a compulsive shopper. If you can't control your impulses and your health suffers.......you aren't responsible. Period. None of this genetic big-boned nonsesne.


Not to drag this into a whole other topic but I disagree. Thin [arents have obese children and obese parents have thin children. In my opinion, just because the parents are one way doesn't mean the kids will follow suit. Are you a carbon copy of your parents? I'm not....
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Gamecock



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I definitely support this ban on obese people adopting. How can you trust someone to raise children right when they can't even raise themselves? It's like giving a child to an anneorexic or a compulsive shopper. If you can't control your impulses and your health suffers.......you aren't responsible. Period. None of this genetic big-boned nonsesne.


Wow...just...Wow! Have you got those drugs flushed out of your system yet so you won't get busted by your physical when you arrive here in Korea???
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SeoulShakin



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly hope that children aren't necessarily carbon-copies of their parents. If that were the case, your harsh generalizations and judgements about other people's situations would be passed on to another person, and that would be a bad situation all around. None of this big-boned crap? And what would happen if the child you adopted developed a thyroid problem, or had an under-active metabolism? Those are medical reasons for weight gain. Would you sit there and berate your child with nonsensical garbage such as "get off your butt and do something about your weight", or "you'll never be a good parent because of your size"? While you may have "lucked out" with your size, there are other reasons for being overweight besides laziness or an inability to look after oneself. Should your child become that way, would you dare say that he/she is less capable of lovingly raising a child themselves or being a self-sustaining person? I hope to god that what you just said was just because you have a certain amount of cyber anonymity, and not your true reasoning. If that is the case, I pity any child who may be in your care.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get info from this site:
http://www.holtintl.org/flash/index.shtml

They also have an office near Hongik Stn.
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess that rules so many American couples out.
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tomato



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Curious about Adoption Reply with quote

desperation wrote:
I know I'm not waiting for a woman (I'm a man) and I know I'm not getting a Korean either.


Sorry, that disqualifies you.
I don't have the URL address, but there is a Webpage which lists the guidelines fro adoption of Korean children.
Single-parent adoptions are out.
If I remember correctly, you have to be between 25 and 45, and you have to bemarried to a person--of the opposite gender--who is also in that range and within 15 years of your own age.

Isn't that stupid?
You can kill a fetus any time and anywhere, but to adopt a child, there are myriad restrictions.
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This post makes me uncomfortable.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alyallen, are you sure of that formula?
I tried your formula and it put me in the quadruple digits!

Anyway, here is a calculator using pounds and inches:

http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

I'm not at the cut-off point yet, but I'm darn close to it.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
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Guess that rules so many American couples out.


America has adopted more Korean babies than any other country in the world.

Why are you such a pr1ck?


um....sadly Americans are not exactly svelte anymore so it would disqualify a lot of people. That's the truth, not a prickish comment....

Tomato,

I just posted what I read. I have no idea how realistic that BMI cut off is. I know I'm a 30 or so, but I'm not interested in adopting a Korean kid so I'm not bothered by it one way or another...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
desperation wrote:
I definitely support this ban on obese people adopting. How can you trust someone to raise children right when they can't even raise themselves? It's like giving a child to an anneorexic or a compulsive shopper. If you can't control your impulses and your health suffers.......you aren't responsible. Period. None of this genetic big-boned nonsesne.


Not to drag this into a whole other topic but I disagree. Thin [arents have obese children and obese parents have thin children. In my opinion, just because the parents are one way doesn't mean the kids will follow suit. Are you a carbon copy of your parents? I'm not....


If you adopt a kid and create meals for him............DUH ! Ever see obese parents with a child under 7 that's normal sized? I never did.
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