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makemischief
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 Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: KOTESOL looking for webmaster for international conference |
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KOTESOL is looking for a webmaster for their international conference. It�s pretty easy from the technical side but can involve a lot of busy-work: cutting and pasting and etc.
If interested contact Gye Hyoung at gye_hyoung AT yahoo.com
cheers. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: Re: KOTESOL looking for webmaster for international conferen |
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| makemischief wrote: |
| KOTESOL is looking for a webmaster for their international conference. |
You're looking for F2s to do the work right? You wouldn't want us E2s/E1s to break our visa would you? |
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makemischief
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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kudos frankenstein for being the first to jump on the visa danger myth.
you aren�t (to almost 100% certainty) going to get busted for doing non-teaching volunteer work. "but my friend did!" i can already here you say.
yesyes, i�m sure it is technically against your visa but so is playing (again non-paid) in a band at a show or having (non-paid) an art show, or a hundred other little things teachers do every day.
unless you�re being an @ss then the government really doesn�t care.
this isn�t exactly the busan 9.
can you give me ONE example in the 15 year history of KOTESOL where a member has lost visa status for helping out?
no, and once again, no. really sorry to be an @ss about it, but i get a wee bit tired of trolls yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. there is no fire. just cope with it. |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| Back in the mid-90s, I was the founding webmaster of KOTESOL. At the time, we used borrowed server space at a community college in the States and all the pages were hand-coded HTML. It wasn't the prettiest site, but it did the job. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| makemischief wrote: |
| it is technically against your visa |
So an illegal organization is asking us to break visa laws? Are you gonna rob me of my lunch money, too? Oh, wait, you already did. |
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makemischief
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| makemischief wrote: |
| it is technically against your visa |
So an illegal organization is asking us to break visa laws? Are you gonna rob me of my lunch money, too? Oh, wait, you already did. |
sigh.
volunteering for ANYTHING in korea is technically illegal, so assuming the organization itself is run by f-2�s all is good and fine.
the day the Korean government goes after KOTESOL i will be the first in line to bow before your wise end ever helpful observations...
of course you didn�t actually answer my question... but thats not a shock from a silly troll.
i already robbed you of your lunch money? i must be drinking too much soju. i don�t recall doing that. |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| When and where is the KOTESOL conference? Does the person who does the website get admission or any kind of stipend for his/her work? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| makemischief wrote: |
| it is technically against your visa |
So an illegal organization is asking us to break visa laws? Are you gonna rob me of my lunch money, too? Oh, wait, you already did. |
I recently became a KOTESL member and I've been very impressed and encouraged by this organisation. It's exactly the type of thing Korea needs more of, and I especially like to see the collaboration of Koreans and foreigners involved in it. If I had any IT skills and free time I'd be happy to help out, but as it is I'm an over-booked techno-peasant. |
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makemischief
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| winterwawa wrote: |
| When and where is the KOTESOL conference? Does the person who does the website get admission or any kind of stipend for his/her work? |
the biggest conference is held in october in seoul... buth there ar many other smaller confernces and meetings year-round.
alas no stipend... the organization is 100% volunteer run.... despite what some may imagine  |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| I might be interested. I have an undergrad degree in IT, and have been in Korea for 4 1/2 years. Not a member of KOTESOL yet though. |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| makemischief wrote: |
| winterwawa wrote: |
| When and where is the KOTESOL conference? Does the person who does the website get admission or any kind of stipend for his/her work? |
the biggest conference is held in october in seoul... buth there ar many other smaller confernces and meetings year-round.
alas no stipend... the organization is 100% volunteer run.... despite what some may imagine |
So, if I agree to take care of the website, I still have to pay for my KOTESOL membership and entrance to the conference? |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| makemischief wrote: |
| winterwawa wrote: |
| When and where is the KOTESOL conference? Does the person who does the website get admission or any kind of stipend for his/her work? |
the biggest conference is held in october in seoul... buth there ar many other smaller confernces and meetings year-round.
alas no stipend... the organization is 100% volunteer run.... despite what some may imagine |
So, if I agree to take care of the website, I still have to pay for my KOTESOL membership and entrance to the conference? |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| winterwawa wrote: |
| So, if I agree to take care of the website, I still have to pay for my KOTESOL membership and entrance to the conference? |
Yes. Yes.
!shoosh,
Ryst |
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Francis-Pax
Joined: 20 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: Re: KOTESOL looking for webmaster for international conferen |
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| makemischief wrote: |
KOTESOL is looking for a webmaster for their international conference. It�s pretty easy from the technical side but can involve a lot of busy-work: cutting and pasting and etc.
If interested contact Gye Hyoung at gye_hyoung AT yahoo.com
cheers. |
Makemischief, good job in trying to get people to participate and get involved; but, as you can see, these people just don't get it!
They don't understand VOLUNTEERING!!! They are just money hungry selfish P(@*#S
Good luck. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| winterwawa wrote: |
So, if I agree to take care of the website, I still have to pay for my
KOTESOL membership and entrance to the conference? |
Yes and no.
You have to be a member to volunteer - we want people to have a sense of belonging and no, because you are volunteering your time, you do NOT have to pay your entrance to the conference.
I would like to clarify that KOTESOL is registered with the Korean Tax authority and with the Korea Research Foundation, which satisfies local requirements. Also, KOTESOL is NOT a "nonprofit charitable organization" (this does exist in Korea nowadays), it is a "nonprofit educational society" (gyoyuk hakhoe)... the rules are different.
We have our own lawyer on the team and we do know the rules. |
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