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What's Singapore & Kuala Lumpur like to live in?
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
I had a dream last night that I was in Singapore and it was quite nice except that all the floors were made out of pillows just placed on the top of a wooden framework so you always had to be careful that you didn't knock one out of the way and fall through the gaping holes in the wooden frame. Seems like a rather silly city to me if that's really the case.


Thankfully, it isn't!

Related, what you eat before bed last night?
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well looks as though i'm off to KL for a business trip in the first week of July so be able to make a judgment call then.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure to check out the Batu caves..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batu_Caves
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articulate_ink



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love KL. I've been there 4 times and would move there in a heartbeat... except that salaries are so much lower than they are in Singapore and Hong Kong. To live, I'd still choose one of those two. I'd also buy an apartment in KL to use as a vacation home. KL's a great base for travel within the region. The food and shopping are amazing (much better than here). It's cleaner than Seoul, too... or no worse, anyway. Yes, there's been a bit of an uptick in street crime but it's not as bad as people seem to think. I lived in DC in a neighborhood where gunshots could be heard most nights and friends were experiencing drive-by shootings in their front yards. I'd still vote for Singapore over KL because of the money issue, but if they were on par I'd go to Malaysia first.
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow BJWD, those are amazing prices on Tigerair: example Singapore-Perth one way for U$92.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
www.singaporeexpats.com

I live in Singapore now.. What would you like to know?

It is a fantastic place to live. KL, not so much.


How do you stand that it's 35c every day?
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
BJWD wrote:
www.singaporeexpats.com

I live in Singapore now.. What would you like to know?

It is a fantastic place to live. KL, not so much.


How do you stand that it's 35c every day?


Very, very weird you asked that. Today is the hottest I've ever felt and I just booked a flight for a visit to Alberta this morning for that reason. Tomorrow, I'll go to the beach.

But my little apartment has two A/C units and my office is so cold inside I often go outside to escape the cold.

Are you here now?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
Are you here now?


No Smile There was a time I considered taking a software job there. Ever since I just follow the weather in Yahoo. The temp never seems to change much.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Singaporeans tell me this is the "hot and dry" season. Which means, I gather, that is only rains horses and cows for 30 min every day (rather than 45) and reaches 35 instead of 33.
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD: Looked online at apartments in Singapore and they seem Really expensive. Mostly above $2000 per month for a small 1 BR. Where the heck does everyone live?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmat wrote:
BJWD: Looked online at apartments in Singapore and they seem Really expensive. Mostly above $2000 per month for a small 1 BR. Where the heck does everyone live?


I got the feeling companies subsidized their employees rental expense.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Singapore there are, for the needs of our discussion here, basically two types of properties that you would be in the market for. The first is condos, which are privatively owned buildings with rather extravagant facilities etc etc. I lived in one for about 10 months. It was lovely, and horribly expensive. The other places to live are called HDB's (Housing Development Board) and they are built by the state. Around 90% of Singaporeans live in HDB, as do an increasing number of foreigners (like myself).

HDB's are quite aggressively controlled to eliminate speculation. I pay 1,000$S (650usd or so) all in for a furnished flat near Commonwealth station (very close to downtown). If you wanted to live farther away from the CBD it would be cheaper. If you were teaching esl (though, many other opps would be available to you) you would likely be in the suburbs.

To get an hdb you have to be a legal resident of Singapore (students pass, employment pass etc). So, you wouldn't be able to move here, get a place and then look for a job. You would have to get a job and then a place as you may not rent without a visa. I would suggest, if you are a single guy/gal, renting a room in a condo for 3 months or so and learning the city. Rooms are quite easy to find.

The condos are generally rented to expat employees of very wealthy firms. Singapore has an entirely different 'foreigner pool' than Korea. The expats here (the Westerners, at least) tend to be damn wealthy. That brings a couple of major outcomes. First, the middle and high end of the housing market is obscene and 2 the nightlife can be very stuffy.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's your assessment of employment chances for someone with an MA (you know what I am doing since we PM'ed earlier) at the moment? I have contacts down there and would love to settle either in Singapore or Jakarta.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jag,

I remember we spoke of this. I do not exactly remember what your MA was in...
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
Jag,

I remember we spoke of this. I do not exactly remember what your MA was in...


International Relations, security studies.
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