Korean Job Discussion Forums

[KOREAN_MAN]

It seems to me that foreign women seem to enjoy their trips to Korea A LOT MORE than foreign men do (in general that is). Why??? I also have seen lots of Korean men not able to "fit in" to different cultures as easily as Korean women.

I would say at least 75% of negative posts about Korea/Koreans here on Dave's are made by men. I sense a lot of hatred between Korean men and foreign men, but I'm not sure about women of both sides. Is it because we like war? Are we just waiting for excuses to fight?

[RJjr]

[bgreenster]

Maybe it's just me, but I haven't really noticed that trend. I think it's just that there are more men here in Korea/they tend to stay longer. Perhaps I have no idea, seeing as how I am of the female persuasion, but I think life in Korea seems a lot easier for guys to adjust to than for women. (what with having better luck dating Koreans, the more male-centric society, etc).

I think the fact that there are more dudes posting on here can be credited more to the overall ratio of foreign men: women in the country, and maybe also factor in the much-debated anti-women issue as of late on this board. (I'm not saying it IS anti-woman, just that it seems to be a big issue on here recently...)

And just a shot in the dark, but if there is a trend of women being able to adjust more easily, it could be that only a certain kind of chick would leave home and live abroad for an extended amount of time and that specific trait doesn't extend to guys (??) I think that in some cases, women come to Korea for different reasons than men do...

*sorry if that last bit is unclear... my alcohol-soused brain can't clarify it any more at this point, at least without rambling...

[jaganath69]

[KOREAN_MAN]

[bgreenster]

[koon_taung_daeng]

i actually think its because korean men are insecure about the size of their wangs apposed to the almighty north american kizock! i know it sounds just like a joke but i think its true. korean men dont give a shit about us banging and leaving their women it just bothers them that we bang their women period. im not trying to be an asshole its just the truth

[Paddycakes]

I hate to break the news, but...

Korean women are often just as chauvinistic and caught up in the mindless slogans and jingos of Korean nationalism as Korean men

The difference, truth be told, is Korean women have cute little bums, so we don't really care what's in their minds, we mainly care about what's in their pants.

[RJjr]

[Captain Corea]

[bgreenster]

[Apple]

[Newbie]

First, Dave's has a ratio of about 20:1 men to women. So, it's not a fair assessment. Second, don't confuse men coming to Dave's to vent and mock Koreans with actually hating the place. Sure, there are some haters here, but most posters are justing coming to vent and laugh.

In my experience, it's the men who do better here than the women. Many women can't handle the sexism: rude ajoshis, Russian prostitute thing, not many dating opportunities (it's just reality that few western women are into Korean men), being told how to dress, and so on. This really gets on western women who have been accustomed to "running the show" in their home countries. Men, in reality, are living the easy life here. Treated like movie stars, plenty of chances for dating, many new adventures. Men back home have to slave to women. Here, they get to be in charge again.

Korea really is a paradise for foreign MEN.

But yeah, if you went by Dave's, I can see how you're confused.

[Sody]

[sojourner1]

Since most of us are male in a traditionally female profession, it is awkward dealing with all the female KT's and directors since they are all female. (in my experience) This fact may be attributed to a hard way to go for foreign men unless they can build rapport with people they have nothing in common with in order be favored in high esteem. Some guys manage, while some guys can't build rapport with them. Some schools full of female Korean staff are right for some guys, while the same place presents a terrible experience for other guys and gals.

I speak of the interpersonal skills of building rapport with people you have nothing in common with, because this seems to be a huge determining factor in the quality of our experience here just as anywhere else regardless of whether you are male or female. In fact, my school is horrible for foreign females as to my understanding, 6 pulled runners in 3 years, while not a single male teacher pulled a runner which shows that the all female Korean staffed school prefers foreign male teachers. Of course the one that is favored is a very athletic handsome 28 year old Canadian. I bet if you dressed up in business attire everyday, working with the Koreans would be a much more pleasant experience since they value image greatly, but I don't dress up since my co-FT's dress like it's a vacation we are on.

Physical image also plays a huge role in determining the quality of your experience to the point it seems like a good attitude and doing all the right things is not enough to be successful in many hagwons here. Being liked is a big deal to me in having a high quality experience and I must say I am put down since day 1 to say the least. Of course, you know your working with insecure Korean women if they're hiding behind allot of makeup and large rhinestone jewelry while dodging your attempts at making real communication and eye contact and then telling you are wrong on things when they never made it possible for you to know certain details of the job. Suprise, suprise, we don't personally like you, but we tolerate you since you're a cash cow with no one waiting to replace you. Now I know why no one would want my job; it's tough to be liked as to get the supports necessary in making a good experience and be sincerely wanted, while there isn't even a sandwich shop or any place to eat lunch locally. Things like that are a big deal in what your experience sums up to be.