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RedRob
Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Location: Narnia
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 Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: McDonalds/Dunkin D's/Wal-Mart etc sell FAIR TRADE coffee |
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What do you think of wal mart and the like entering the fair trade market?
Is it a good thing or is it just a cynical attempt to take over an area that has traditionally been a social movement?
Does WM/McDs really care about small producers?
Do YOU care about small third world producers?
Curious.....Rob |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: McDonalds/Dunkin D's/Wal-Mart etc sell FAIR TRADE coffee |
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| RedRob wrote: |
What do you think of wal mart and the like entering the fair trade market?
Is it a good thing or is it just a cynical attempt to take over an area that has traditionally been a social movement?
Does WM/McDs really care about small producers?
Do YOU care about small third world producers?
Curious.....Rob |
I really don't know enough about it. On the face of it, it seems like a good idea. We shouldn't be handing these governments development money they're just going to piss away on mansions. We shouldn't be giving them fish, we should be teaching them to be fishermen.
If it's not a label akin to "well being" on a pack of cigarettes or "fat free" on a product made entirely of sugar and carbs, then great. It allows consumers to put their money where their mouth is. |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| The idea of these corporations entering the fair trade market is laughable. Walmart? Pshaw! |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Tony_Balony wrote: |
| The idea of these corporations entering the fair trade market is laughable. Walmart? Pshaw! |
Yeah. It's easy to be cynical, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
I think it's still easy to be fair trade while keeping the price of a cup of coffee down. They might resort to using the cheaper Robusta beans and still pay fair trade prices.
Heaven knows that for $4 - $5 a cup, Starbucks should already be using fair trade coffee, but they don't. What a terrible company! |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| but let's give them the benefit of the doubt. |
Hmmm.... I'd rather go to a Walmart, drop trou and give them a big dump on the floor |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Tony_Balony wrote: |
| The idea of these corporations entering the fair trade market is laughable. Walmart? Pshaw! |
Walmart is in the business of selling people what they want to buy at a price they are willing to pay for it. What does it matter to walmart? People, ostensibly, want to buy this stuff. |
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Ethan Allen Hawley
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: Why on earth not? |
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Presuming that the quality is the same, and that the 'fair trade' standard is verified, then how could this not be a great achievement?
Why not aim for a world of only fair trade products?
I'd guess, at the same time, that it's not long before the prices of all imported products are going to be increasing, even with FTAs and such, as carbon taxing becomes more common. This could be the reason that whichever companies are marketing fair trade products are making such products competitive now, so as to establish a foothold before the carbon tax crunch, which seems to have started in the UK already. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Actually, this might be a good thing for the sales of fair trade coffee. If the wholesale price is fixed, the only way Wal-Mart could outprice the competition with its retail price.
If the retail price of fair trade coffee goes down, more people will buy it. |
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demaratus
Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Location: Searching for a heart of gold, and I'm gettin' old
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| I dont really know how this can be a bad thing. Whatever the motivations of walmart might be, this seems like a good thing to me. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| My guess is that they bought their own coffee plantations, so whatever price they pay is always fair. |
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cwemory
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| My guess is that they bought their own coffee plantations, so whatever price they pay is always fair. |
bingo! |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Its the PR department of these companies saying "we should do this".
Some guy/girl in Public Relations or Marketing had a great idea about their company joining Fair Trade. They pitched the idea higher and higher up in the corporate ladder until someone gave their OK. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| My guess is that they bought their own coffee plantations, so whatever price they pay is always fair. |
That would never work because the NGOs would be quick to call them on it. Nice try!  |
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