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Why are Korean kids so bad at geography?
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Axl Rose



Joined: 16 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update!

Well, I've been teaching the lesson plan I posted above all week and whilst many kids have no problem with the locations and spellings, their knowledge of population and population density is absolutely pathetic. Even the brightest kids have no clue. Only Korea's and China's populations have they been able to guess closely. It's a revelation to them that Canada and Australia have only 30/20 million respectively. Because they're so big, they must have huge populations, right? Laughing

I have also this week taken a look at 2nd grade middle schoolers' 사회 ('Society') textbooks. There's plenty of stuff on foreign countries in there - mostly Europe - so they should (and IMO usually do) have some grasp of basic geography.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an afterschool class today and I asked the students to split into 2 groups and then write as many countries as they could. They lost points for incorrect spelling or for using incorrect capitalization so for example, one group lost a point for writing Saudi arabia. I guess I'm mean like that.

I talked to my co-teacher while the groups were working and I told him that I bet one of the groups would write Hawaii. Sure enough, I was right.

I was annoyed since they had a lesson 2 weeks ago about countries and I explained that Hong Kong, Hawaii and Alaska are not countries...One day they will learn...
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idonojacs



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wo buxihuan hanguoren:

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Newfoundland is not part of North America.



Huh?

Did someone steal Newfoundland?

That's cool.
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I think it's a lot easier for us to learn geography. Canada and the US are big countries and easy to find on a map. Korea is proportionally much smaller, so there's a lot more territory outside their own country to learn.


Sorry to be late to point this out, but that's completely illogical...props if that was a joke...anyway...

I spend a lot of time covering geography, and though it takes time to dispel these...often humorous...misconceptions that they have (Africa is a country, etc.), many if not most of them buy into my enthusiasm for it. It's a more exciting topic than most are for them, and I don't even have to stroke their Korea-first egos/paradigms that much to make it happen.

I knew a lot about geography at age six. I was a complete map nerd by the age of four. I wasn't interested in stories and children's books, cartoons, board and video games that much. Pretty much just maps and sports. I missed out on a lot of other things, such as beginning to learn an instrument, but that's what I loved. My interests have only expanded since them.

I'm more qualified academically to be teaching geography here than English, though I'd like to think that my 3-4 years of experience in several countries has narrowed the gap. One of my greatest joys here is helping to nurture a love for geographic knowledge among my students.

I even hold voluntary, unpaid tutoring for some of my most motivated students twice a week after regular classes with an emphasis on studying physical and cultural geography. They really get excited about it. I'm glad. I don't have to reach all of them. Just those who want to be nerds about it like me! Very Happy
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KOREAN_MAN wrote:
Actually, Australia is considered a continent, not Oceania. The definition of 'continent' is pretty funny since Australia is just an island like Japan and Europe and Asia are not separated.


Wrong...Australia is geographically distinct and warrants the title 'continent', as exhibited by its continental shelf and a knowledge of plate tectonics.

Wrong...Japan is not an island. It is an archipelago consisting of roughly three thousand islands. That's hardly comparable to Australia.
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beachbumNC



Joined: 30 May 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was told by a korean that many koreans don't know much about history or geography because the science and math kids study science and math, and the langugage and history kids study language and history. and, just like everywhere else in the world, there's a lot more money in science and math than in language and history.

would you rather your child grow up to design plasma tvs or jets or buildings, or grow up to teach geography in middle school?

but it is kind of weird when you talk to grown up engineers about the roman empire and they've never heard of it.

but all the koreans i've met so far know where north carolina is (of all places). two words...michael jordan.

GO TARHEELS!
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beachbumNC wrote:
GO TARHEELS!


Very Happy Most enthusiastically seconded! God, I was just waiting for somebody to say that...

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beachbumNC



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well check out this straight-up-awesomeness:

http://perso.orange.fr/michael.jordan/carolina/carolina2.jpg
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monkinwonderland



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my students described to me how North and South Korea would reunify and together smash Japan. I asked him to show me Japan on the map. He pointed to Alaska.

Another kid told me that Paris was a country in America.

Another told me that kangaroos live in Japan and the Irish speak French.

My favorite though was the one who when asked to point to Korea, showed me Liberia.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another kid told me that Paris was a country in America.


While it is not a country there is Paris, Texas.
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monkinwonderland



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
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Another kid told me that Paris was a country in America.


While it is not a country there is Paris, Texas.


Do you think he's aware of that?
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you think he's aware of that?


Probably not!!!
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I cannot find the other thread that talked about the lack of intelligence of Koreans. I was laughing today when my class came in and all opened their books when I had already told them twice this week that we were going to have a discussion based on a handout about Studying Abroad.
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