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Where are all the crazies/homeless?!
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I went to Daegu I saw a guy without legs rolling around in the muck on a makeshift skateboard holding a paper cup asking for change. I see a homeless person (or two) everytime I go into Seoul, usually around the stations.


The legless guy brought back memories of China, which has the most agressive homeless people outside of Los Angeles.
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
Only in Korea will you run into an autistic kid riding the subway alone who has an intermediate grasp of English and will hold a conversation with you until your stop, at which point he will hug you goodbye.


Are you sure he was autistic? Generally autistic children would never hug anybody... Especially not on their own free will.
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:

Are you sure he was autistic? Generally autistic children would never hug anybody... Especially not on their own free will.


There's more than one kind of autism. Some autism manifests itself in anti-social behavior or sensitivity to stimuli, others just mean they don't understand societal norms and do things that people their age would consider "childish," such as passing out hugs to people you just met, or just being generally "too friendly" for the situation. Hurrah for extremely long sentences.
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contrarian



Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just had guri guy on his ritual trashing of Korea. I do wish he would leave for Japan.

Mad
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jcan



Joined: 08 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halifax is one hell of a city, despite the rise in violent crime over the past few years. My contract is up in a few weeks and I can't wait to go back there.
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4 months left



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are all the crazies/homeless?! Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
What I mean is I haven't seen any offensive crazies. Like the random dudes back home who would follow me five blocks cursing at me because I gave them a $2 coin instead of a $5 bill... or the crime, like when I used to hear gunshots in the wee hours of the morning nearly ritually (I lived in a few bad places)..


Following you because you gave them $2 instead of $5?? I hardly think this would be a common occurrence, maybe once in your life?? I'd say quite an exagerration.

Crime is hidden here and taken care of "internally" either thru blood money or a beating. Thank your lucky stars guns are illegal here, can you imagine what it would be like if anyone could own a gun. Ajoshi/adjuma goes on a soju binge and starts firing a few rounds off!!

If you speak or read fluently in Korean you would see the amount of crime that actually goes on here.

There is only crime in Korea because foreigners brought it here!!
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

contrarian wrote:
We just had guri guy on his ritual trashing of Korea. I do wish he would leave for Japan.

Mad


What he said was certainly valid and he didn't use the word "Japan" once. Razz
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We just had guri guy on his ritual trashing of Korea. I do wish he would leave for Japan.


You are a complete idiot Contrarian. I merely pointed out that there are homeless people in Korea and that it is not uncommon. I never implied Korea was a bad country because of it. There are homeless people in every country and Korea is no different. You being the obnoxious jackass that you are automatically assume the worst. Newsflash Einstein...there are homeless people in Japan too. Think before you post please.

Thanks Alyallen. I'm glad people with common sense understand.
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JMO



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those mermaid guys with leather thongs covering their stumps(i assume they don't have legs) are pretty jarring the first time you see them.
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contrarian



Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guri guy"

If this isn't trashing then what the hell is it.

"As well, Korea not being a violent society is a myth. There are relatively few handguns but violence is still a big problem here. It isn't a paradise by any stretch"

If violence is a problem here, I have never seen it in 7 plus years. I had som cretin pull a knife on me in Vancouver in February. Whacked him full strength in the right ear with my cane.
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see a few 3D foreign worker types here and there that are begging and seem to have lost their job, but stayed in Korea and went for broke. I have also seen a few Koreans homeless and begging. What's up with those Koreans who wrap a tire inner tube or rubber stuff around their legs and scoot along the ground with sad music playing from a stereo on a wheeled cart powered by a car battery? I dunno, but it's quite an interesting act.

I am from St. Louis where there are lots of homeless beggars and where you must be careful in looking out for your wallet and personal safety. It's not that all homeless people are bad, anyone can fall a little behind and lose their step financially. When good people become desperate enough due to excessive downturn out of a matter of circumstance, they will rob or do what it takes to survive.

I give a thumbs up to Korea for having a very low risk of crime, but don't be complacent enough to go carelessly flashing your fat wallet around in public or even counting money in public.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

contrarian wrote:
guri guy"

If this isn't trashing then what the hell is it.

"As well, Korea not being a violent society is a myth. There are relatively few handguns but violence is still a big problem here. It isn't a paradise by any stretch"

If violence is a problem here, I have never seen it in 7 plus years. I had som cretin pull a knife on me in Vancouver in February. Whacked him full strength in the right ear with my cane.


This is not the most recent info but here you go....
http://ww2.pstripes.osd.mil/01/mar01/ed031801d.html
Quote:
South Korea's crime rate
has jumped 560 percent in 30 years

By Jim Lea
Osan bureau chief

The crime rate in South Korea has skyrocketed 560 percent in the last three decades, according to a newly released Crime White Paper issued by the Justice Ministry in Seoul.

Murder, rape, armed robbery and arson increased by 460 percent, according to the report, which examined crime statistics from 1970 to 1999.

In 1999, 47 Americans were tried in Korean courts, the report said. It did not break down how many of the Americans tried were U.S. military personnel.

U.S. Forces Korea officials say that Korean authorities reported 396 criminal cases involving American military personnel in 2000. Of those, 191 were traffic offenses.

Last year, USFK officials said, South Korea exercised jurisdiction in only 33 cases.

A ministry spokesman in Seoul said the White Paper report showed 330,000 crimes were committed in the country in 1970, with that figure increasing to 1.73 million in 1999.

The most dramatic increases were in violent and economic crimes, the spokesman said.

In 1970, there were 3,400 felonies � including murder, rape, armed robbery and arson � committed in the country. In 1999, nearly 16,000 felonies were committed, the spokesman quoted the report as saying.

Economic crimes � among them fraud, embezzlement and breach of trust � increased 980 percent between 1970 and 1999, the spokesman said.

Nearly 340,000 economic crimes were committed in 1998 alone, the year after the nation suffered its worst financial crisis in history and the national economy nearly collapsed.

During the 30-year period, the number of crimes committed by women and juveniles doubled, the White Paper said.

In the past decade, narcotics offenses have more than doubled. In 1990, there were 4,200 drug-related cases, but in 1999 the number increased to 10,600.


Sorry, OP Embarassed I don't want to hijack your thread or anything...
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Where are all the crazies/homeless?! Reply with quote

4 months left wrote:
Following you because you gave them $2 instead of $5?? I hardly think this would be a common occurrence, maybe once in your life?? I'd say quite an exagerration.


Actually, no. No its not. At all.

I had a guy follow me from Black street through to the end of Gottingen street (more than five blocks) after I gave him a $2 about three months ago. It went something like this:

"Hey budday, friend.. I need bus and coffee... change?"

So I gave him $2, that was the smallest change in my wallet at the time.

Then he followed me saying: "$2?! What the *^%# man, I need bus money too bitch! Bus money! Come on' man, I know you got some change... come on, help me out man..." etc etc

Yup, then there is that sketchy deuchebag lady who has harrassed everyone at some point... she almost followed me home.

Then there was the bum who got in the lobby to my old house and started going through my mail... when I confronted him he screamed at me and told me it was his house.

Yup. That and I've witnessed a shooting.

I should start clipping out articles and scanning them if you don't believe me Razz
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee



Joined: 17 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to teach mornings down near City Hall station and would just past through the station as the security guys were waking the homeless guys up before the big morning rush. They seemed mostly harmless when I was walking past them, but then again it was 6:30am, and they were more than likely still drunk judging by the half dozen empty soju bottles laying around them.

I also forgot that about a block East of Euljiro 3-ga, there's a pedestrian underpass that usually has 4-5 homeless dudes just hanging out playing cards and getting drunk.

And as for Bundang, a few times, I've seen one solitary guy sleeping in the bushes at the back side of Samsung Plaza / Seohyun station towards the road where all of the buses passing through Bundang stop. I think near Jeongja and Sunae though, the cops would be taking any homeless people for rides out to the country and dropping them off in the sticks. All of the Richie Rich families down here don't like to see that 'unpleasant' side of Korean life.
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The homeless folks in Japan I've seen all live in these neat little tent cities in the parks and down by the bridges. I hear the schoolkids like to come around and set them on fire; think 'bumfight,' but more hands on and pyrotechnical.

Halifax is a pretty rough city at times, for sure, but it's nowhere near as bad as Vancouver has become these last few years. I blame 'the shard' and the warm weather that brings people out west from all over Canada.

'Shard,' or 'crystal meth', is really really bad for the head. It does heavy, permanent brain damage that makes crack-heads look like Mensa applicants, and it's dirt cheap. Ten bucks to get ripped for two days, kinda thing...it's the new glue, the new cooking wine, the new safety solvents. People who might've had some chance of dragging their sorry asses out of the gutter, ten years ago, are now royally pooched; if they hit the shard for a year or two, they quite simply can't get better, 9 times in 10. Eats away bits of you that don't grow back. Add to that the emotional and physical problems (FAS, alcoholism, mental illness etc.) a lot of the street people already have, and what we got here is an epidemic of chronic, permanent homelessness and criminality.

Bad stuff. Nice to be back to see the folks, but whenever i visit the west coast it just seems to be worse and worse in the city cores...all these thousand yard stares, and diseasy f***ed up looking kids you just know aren't going to hit 30...what a mess. Never thought I'd actually be nostalgic for the early nineties, when folks were just drunks and junkies. They were easier to outrun, and they did their dying quietly and out of sight, not twitching and screaming in the middle of the street.
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