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No contract, no visa, just a plane ride

 
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Hijack



Joined: 02 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: No contract, no visa, just a plane ride Reply with quote

I've already spent a year in Seoul teaching and love it. I left for a bit and am heading back... SOON.

I have yet to receive the contract from my employer (even though I have a verbal agreement). The school is on vacation and I probably won't have it until Saturday. (Before you suggest the job isn't real, let me assure you it is - a friend works there and I've spoken with the director personally several times.)

So here's the situation:

-I need to buy a plan ticket to Seoul before I can't afford it
-I probably need to fly to either Houston or LA to get my visa
-I don't have the paperwork necessary to even build a time-line around to schedule these events

I start teaching on August 13th and would like to arrive a week ahead of that to adjust to everything and see some friends.

Should I just book the flight without the visa and count on them sending me to Japan to get it? Seems like it would be easier and cheaper for me if they paid for that flight. Advice?
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They haven't given you anything tangable yet. Shop around.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you pay for your own flight, you employer won't pay for it AND the ticket to Japan.

Why must you go to Houston or LA for a visa? The Korean Consulate you should go to is the one for your area, and you can do it through mail.

Don't shell out money until everything is confirmed by your employer. If they don't have their sh()t together, you may want to consider someone else.
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gyopogirlfromtexas



Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Location: Austin,Texas

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Houston consulate is the only one in Texas. I think there are Korean Consulates in NY, LA, Atlanta, and Houston. I mailed my documents for visa and it took them 3 days and overnight mail.

I wouldn't risk leaving without a visa though. It's 50/50 gamble. Some people say if you look professional, they won't look. But I just can't see how they would risk paying a fine and having to bring you back to the states on their own dime, when all they had to see was if you had a valid visa to enter. I thought the 30 day tourist was sufficient, but no, they are not going to let you in the country without a roundtrip or onward ticket, with the tourist visa. I called around on yahoo yellow pages and asked for cheapest flights, they all seem to be Singapore Air.
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rvintage



Joined: 05 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually if they stop you because of the visa it will be when you try to get on the plane to come here, not when you get here. Once you are here they don't care and I've done it before with a visitors visa with no onward ticket, no problem.

And, yes, they will not pay for both the plane ticket over AND the Japan visa run. So, it's up to you if you want to foot the bill for one of those.

And why didn't they take care of sending you a 5 second email with the contract before they went on vacation???
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother, keep looking if you really want to come work here...although why anybody would, beats me. Very Happy
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Hijack



Joined: 02 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rvintage wrote:
And why didn't they take care of sending you a 5 second email with the contract before they went on vacation???


The guy I spoke with said he DID send the contract, but I check my spam box regularly and hadn't seen anything.

I've no intention of going to the airport and telling the nice people behind the counter I'm there to work without a visa. I suppose I would just say I'm there on vacation if I had to.

Either way I'm not making any quick decisions until I get the contract.

The reason I have to go to LA or Houston is that I live in Santa Fe, NM and those are the nearest consulates. I was under the impression that I'd have to submit paperwork in person.
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Squid



Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Anyang

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the problem?

Just get yourself a return ticket and obtain a visitors visa upon entry here in Korea.

Check out your potential employer and do a deal on the airfare- either a lump sum on the spot... or split it into two payments: half now, half on completion of the contract...or up the monthly pay to reflect reimbursement of the total over the 12 months ( If you went with another employer the least you'd get is the return leg and Japan run paid. )

Also have them fly you to Japan for your E2.

Standard practice. No need to jerk around spending money your end flying around trying to get an E2 without the necessary papers. That's a dead-end.

Don't see the problem.
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