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andrew

Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: ***** |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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These 'young' girls are only acting out their rigid gender role in Korean/Confucian society. K chicks about 20-28 are all giggly, soft, deferent to men (mostly) and very 'feminine' (Oh, I can't do that - it's too hard etc).
This role is what K boys want, and they'll never get a man if they act any different.
However, when they're 30 ("30 finish"), K girls get married. They then adopt a new gender role - the scary 'Adjuma' (wife/mother/older woman).
Basically, the giggly younger girl (can't remember if it's Agashi?) is just a trick for the boys. Beware. The change in behavior is dramatic and leaves even K boys wondering where his lovely giggly girl went. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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You should see people when I walk my dogs, a mid-size c0cker and a large golden retriever. I have had older women run away, climb over the sidewalk/grass rope and walk a huge circle around me, stop dead in their tracks and close their eyes...quite absurd really.
Both dogs are in canvas harness leashes that I keep taught and close to me when people are around...it is clear the dogs cannot move sideways at all.
Whenever I walk by some guys, they inevitably call the dogs attention in some way. So, I let the retractor button go and the dogs blast over to them, and they scatter like rabbits in a fire.
When we walk by people with smaller dogs, they always start going crazy, barking, etc. Sometimes as we pass them, I look down at my dog and say "도시락!". My dog has no idea what it means, so nothing happens, but the owner of the noisy rat scoops up their dog pretty quick.
They seem very fearful. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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oldfatfarang wrote: |
These 'young' girls are only acting out their rigid gender role in Korean/Confucian society. K chicks about 20-28 are all giggly, soft, deferent to men (mostly) and very 'feminine' (Oh, I can't do that - it's too hard etc).
This role is what K boys want, and they'll never get a man if they act any different.
However, when they're 30 ("30 finish"), K girls get married. They then adopt a new gender role - the scary 'Adjuma' (wife/mother/older woman).
Basically, the giggly younger girl (can't remember if it's Agashi?) is just a trick for the boys. Beware. The change in behavior is dramatic and leaves even K boys wondering where his lovely giggly girl went. |
Its at this time they usually stop covering their mouth when they laugh. They get a nasty short curly perm. Start talking really loud in public places. Start wearing really ghastly loud colors. Stop growing lenthwise.
Start growing widthwise.
Not to mention the duckbill dinosour sunviser they sport whenever selling squid in the market. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed that Korean people will often overreact to loud, sudden noises-- OMMOH!-- but I've always attributed it to teachers laying the smack down in class when they were young. |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I do it in class just to make sure everyone is awake. I just raise my voice in an unexpected way�. Normally it is just a word to praise them or something that is funny. I justify it as making sure everyone is awake and paying attention, but it is really just for my own amusement. |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans in general (men and women) are prone to being overdramatic. I think its just conditioning from all of the shows on TV. There's nothing subtle about Koreans. |
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Ethan Allen Hawley

Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: dread fear of the evil killer-puppy |
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Hah! At the risk of side-tracking the thread, about fear of cute harmless dogs, I have to say:
at one of my previous schools, one of the teachers and his partner had an adorable, beautiful, smart dog they walked on the grounds. I don't know if it was an under sized Siberian husky or just a younger one, but it certainly wasn't a big one.
I ran into them and some others on campus one fine day work-day afternoon, and we stopped to chat, so, he let it off the leash cos it wanted to go explore, and he was supposed to be walking it, and it clearly wanted the exercise.
I'll never forget what happened:
it made a bee-line for the library building facing us, and took itself up the stairs. As soon as it dissappeared through the doors, the screams started. You could follow its progress by the shrieks and bursts of screaming that rapidly trailed along the hall windows facing the area where we were standing.
Finally it emerged from the door entrance on the other side of the building and made its way around the benches and trails in the quad area, slowly coming back to its owner, and scattering more young women like startled pigeons screeching "Ohma jigae!" |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Demophobe wrote: |
You should see people when I walk my dogs, a mid-size c0cker and a large golden retriever. I have had older women run away, climb over the sidewalk/grass rope and walk a huge circle around me, stop dead in their tracks and close their eyes...quite absurd really.
Both dogs are in canvas harness leashes that I keep taught and close to me when people are around...it is clear the dogs cannot move sideways at all.
Whenever I walk by some guys, they inevitably call the dogs attention in some way. So, I let the retractor button go and the dogs blast over to them, and they scatter like rabbits in a fire.
When we walk by people with smaller dogs, they always start going crazy, barking, etc. Sometimes as we pass them, I look down at my dog and say "도시락!". My dog has no idea what it means, so nothing happens, but the owner of the noisy rat scoops up their dog pretty quick.
They seem very fearful. |
LOL
Last year I took a group of Korean students (high school girls) to Canada and made the mistake of taking them for a walk around Mill Lake Park in Abbotsford, BC, which happens to be a very popular dog-walking path. And so we got to confront big dog after big dog after big dog. I'm sure you can picture what that was like, with some of them running ahead, running behind, running around to hide behind trees and bushes, hiding behind me, clutching each other and closing their eyes, for three bloody kilometres.
And as for the OP - try working at a school where you freak the living hell out of someone three or four times a day merely by walking into a classroom where someone didn't see you coming until the last second. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: dread fear of the evil killer-puppy |
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Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
Hah! At the risk of side-tracking the thread, about fear of cute harmless dogs, I have to say... |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the slightest thing unleashes the "갑자기" chorus. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: dread fear of the evil killer-puppy |
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Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
Hah! At the risk of side-tracking the thread, about fear of cute harmless dogs, I have to say:
at one of my previous schools, one of the teachers and his partner had an adorable, beautiful, smart dog they walked on the grounds. I don't know if it was an under sized Siberian husky or just a younger one, but it certainly wasn't a big one.
I ran into them and some others on campus one fine day work-day afternoon, and we stopped to chat, so, he let it off the leash cos it wanted to go explore, and he was supposed to be walking it, and it clearly wanted the exercise.
I'll never forget what happened:
it made a bee-line for the library building facing us, and took itself up the stairs. As soon as it dissappeared through the doors, the screams started. You could follow its progress by the shrieks and bursts of screaming that rapidly trailed along the hall windows facing the area where we were standing.
Finally it emerged from the door entrance on the other side of the building and made its way around the benches and trails in the quad area, slowly coming back to its owner, and scattering more young women like startled pigeons screeching "Ohma jigae!" |
I live in a teacher's residence at my school and last year my neighbour had a little 10-pound (tops) yapper dog. One evening I was meeting two of my 30-ish female co-workers after work in the parking lot around the corner from my place, and the dog followed me and spotted them. He barked at them and they both screamed and started running for their car. Well, this little yapper suddenly realised how much power he actually had and started barking and growling up a storm as they went into freak-out mode, with the dog chasing them around the car as they were so panicky they couldn't even get a door unlocked to seek refuge. Finally one of them got the driver's door unlocked as the other was getting chased around the car and they ended up jumping into the driver's seat together. I chased the dog away so that we could all get into individual seats and then from the safety of the car they started teasing the dog.
I wonder how they'd cope with a real dangerous animal. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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That's what they get for beating defenseless dogs for boishingtang. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, nothing highlights the inherently phony nature of Korean girliness like the ajummas. Also, there's the fact that some girls aren't afraid to walk around all day in heels and a miniskirt in the dead of winter, have their noses cracked open by a surgeons mallet, or have painful bags of silicon stuff into their chest. But we're supposed to believe their purse is too heavy to carry?
But you can't blame them. It's no less phony than the beer-swilling, sports loving parody of masculinity that most of us American guys buy (literally) into. |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
And as for the OP - try working at a school where you freak the living hell out of someone three or four times a day merely by walking into a classroom where someone didn't see you coming until the last second. |
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