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alwaysfaithless

Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: |
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'm kinda agitated that every foreigner I meet here is over 27 years old. I don't mind associating with people older than me, but I came here expecting everyone to be 22/23 and not expecting to be the youngest in every peer group. Age is such a big deal here, and not just with the Koreans--the foreigners too. Which they probably get from the Koreans after being here so long.
Its really putting a hamper on my foreigner-befriending-quest. Especially when older foreigners aren't as receptive about being friendly to younger folk as I am to them. There is a wall. Not always, but occasionally. |
So why are you agitated? Because the age group of foreigners did not meet your expectations, or because you are not befriending foreigners in general. I am 41, and have been asked out alot by the twenty something crowd many times. I appreciate their offer, but personally, I am a nester and enjoy my free time doing things at home without my coworkers. I also like to take nature hikes, something some of the younger generation just cannot seem to appreciate. When I was your age, I spent most of my time being around older people because I could learn so much from them.
Also , you are still new to the country. It takes awhile to meet the right person, and you will find that age will not be a factor. I hung out with many guys 10 years younger than me when I lived in BUsan and it was a great experience. I also discovered that I could learn so much from the younger generation. We all have something to offer....be patient...your time will come. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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alwaysfaithless wrote: |
So why are you agitated? Because the age group of foreigners did not meet your expectations, or because you are not befriending foreigners in general. I am 41, and have been asked out alot by the twenty something crowd many times. I appreciate their offer, but personally, I am a nester and enjoy my free time doing things at home without my coworkers. I also like to take nature hikes, something some of the younger generation just cannot seem to appreciate. When I was your age, I spent most of my time being around older people because I could learn so much from them.
Also , you are still new to the country. It takes awhile to meet the right person, and you will find that age will not be a factor. I hung out with many guys 10 years younger than me when I lived in BUsan and it was a great experience. I also discovered that I could learn so much from the younger generation. We all have something to offer....be patient...your time will come. |
Hmm. Truth be told, I don't like to drink much. I don't like the bar scene much either, but I do find myself at bars quite often because its easy and thats where my crowd goes in the evenings.
I've only been up one mountain thus far but I'd like to hike more, and when I go to Seoul I'd rather spend time taking things in than heading straight to Hongdae to get loaded--however, this is way too much to ask unless I went to Seoul by myself. Which I'll probably end up doing soon.
I do prefer the older crowd simply because I find people my age are hyper-focused on drinking, clubbing, partying and generally being rowdy. Never really felt comfortable/natural doing any of that myself. However the older crowd here in Korea isn't that much different: I find that drinking is still the centre communal activity, and the only difference between these people and 19-24 year olds back home is that they're a tad older and there is an air about them that makes me feel like an outsider for being slightly younger (emphasis on slightly: I never bring the age thing up until I'm constantly reminded about it. When I came in country a month ago I told someone I was 22 and it was the joke of the evening).
Anyway, I'm not doing the typical youngster lets-hit-the-bar-four-times-a-week thing here. I'd rather do something else. I don't think being older means that you're more naturally inclined to doing things outside the bar, because the older crowd I've met is very much like the younger crowd but slightly less rowdy. I think I'm going to have the same inclinations as I do now in eight-ten years time, just maybe a little more thorough and deeper.
You're probably right though, I just haven't found the right people yet. |
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alwaysfaithless

Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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This is my second time back in Korea. My first time was a few years ago, and I was on of the older teachers at an adult school. Most of my coworkers and i got along fine, considering we were all 11 males sharing a small office. I didn't go out with them a lot, but when I did, I always appreciated the time with them. To be truthful, I was like you--I thought I had nothing in common with the young crowd....I thought they didn't want to hang out with an old guy. Surprisingly, going out with some of these guys turned into some great times.....for sure, there was drinking--couldn't get around that, but there were a few guys who liked hiking and showed me the ropes about the many mountains for hiking.....also, there was the gyms, the jimjilbangs, the noraebangs, all completely new to me and I really enjoyed myself. I guess because we are all experiencing a new culture, were all learning something together. For this reason, I don't think that age really matters. Like you, IncognitoHFX, I am not much of a drinker, and I stay away from the bar scene for that reason. Now, here I am again, 41 years old and back in Korea working around 20-somethings. I get along fine with the guys and girls at work, and I truly appreciate it when some ask me to hang out with them. I am learning a valuable lesson about this age gap thing; what really counts is being able to connect with the right person. Your young, and are probably more flexible than this oldie, so I am sure you will have no trouble hooking up with a buddy/girlfriend in the near future. Let it happen naturally. It is the only way. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Age? bah, what a pile of horsefeathers. I gave up birthdays years ago.
Yr poll should read do ya feel old? Under 30 or over? maybe, like it matters so much |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Incognito, you're over thinking this. Relax, be a little more flexible about things and you'll enjoy yourself more. So you aren't into the heavy drinking scene, good for you. Don't let it rule out friends that are though.
You don't have to roll with the same crowd every single night, it's probably better if you don't. You'll have a wider range of experiences and likely learn more that way, never mind the whole end of contract issue that comes up in so many expat friendships.
Age is only a problem if you let it be. I've got very good friends who're 10-15 years older than me and a few who are 8 years younger, and I'm 29. Eventually you realize that common ground counts for much more than the number of birthday candles on your last cake |
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WanderingDolphin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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swetepete wrote: |
Why, you, no-good mush-faced billious little heap of pre-foetal bluejay droppings, how ignint and arrogantical you are to not include a septugenarian column on that thar pole, not to mention a lack of octo, nano and nonogenarians to boot; I can't even befathom the incongriability of such a senseless swaddling of our internal and eternal withoms and blartiness without losing my elevenses and filling my depends with a brown watery gruel my dear dad would've been happy to call his lunch, and please sir can I have some more he would've said, because they were TOUGH back then. They could out pile-drive a dozen John Henries and a gross of darkie laborers, because they were so tough. Only pets they had was fleas and the occasional snowman if they were lucky enough to afford them, and you goddamn wretched little punks, you think you run the world? Well you don't!
My generation is the greatest generation ever, we licked Hitler's ass in the big double ya double ya tooo and we got through the Great Depression without any of your consarnded Prozax or Vee-agras and such like pharmaceutical nonsensitries, nosireejimbo; all we needed was elbows, grease, and a can-do attitude, like we used when we flabbernaggled the Turks at Gallipoli back in the Day or when we was bashing the Irish, them no-goodnik vomit-trodden little maggotybulbs, no better than gypsies or coloreds or pygmy Orie-untal starch-launderers.
What would your grandmother say if she were here to hear this here hairbrainetry you got the audaciness to call an intelligableable queriosity? She'd spin, boy, spin in her grave she would, like one of your new-fangaggled pop-and-roll-stars on one of their thrice damned and irrelevantile greased-up Albino firkins. Fie! and bosh! and a sugar-hogshead of flimflamerty!
Spare the rod, spoil the child we said, but your folks (my grandchildren) really dropped the pigskin there, they let you all walk about like you were robots from another galaxy with no sense of decorumhoodness nor of speed-limits, and yet like you got the mysterious devilspawn ability to transmogricate into giant lawnmowers or some such taberfoolery. Why, back in my day, all we got for Christmas was two wall-nuts and a severity of diaper rash, and we were pleased as punch to get it.
The only reason we let you runts live is sos we can cannibalize you for parts, later. Those ain't your kidneys, punks; I'm just letting you borrow 'em a while. |
Wow, what a swashbuckling reply! Were you drinking heavily when you wrote this?  |
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Ginormousaurus

Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'm 25. I was 21 when I got here and I was always the youngest, no matter what group of people I hung out with. |
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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I always ran with an older crowd in my 20s. I found people slightly older to be more interesting. And fair play, the older folks were always very open to hanging around with someone younger, and trying to make me feel comfortable.
Now that I'm a bit older, I find I don't have the same patience for younger folk that was afforded me. Maybe it's a change in attitudes, I dunno, but mostly I find the 20s crowd here in Korea to be shallow, overly hedonistic and downright irritating. |
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hcn207

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Really? I'm 22, 3 of my coworkers are under 25, and I feel like I see other people around my age a lot when I'm out in Gangnam and Apgujeong. Maybe it depends on your region/school? |
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sirfro

Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Location: Guui-dong...lol
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I recently turned 23, but I look old, especially if I don't shave every other day... My receding hairline helps too  |
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nomaster
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Location: Hongseong-eup
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Age |
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IncognitoHFX wrote: |
So, here is a poll. Just how close to retirement are all you geezers? |
That poll doesn't get near to including me. |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006 Location: Busan
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Western age: 26. Korean age: 28. ESL age: 37. |
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