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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: Is 'crappy' a forbidden word? |
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I can think of no other reason for my post about my ex-students' English skill being crappy. Is this considered a swear word by the moderators? If so, why doesn't the swear filter catch it?
I understand that in America this is a somewhat stronger word than in Canada and the UK - but are any Americans genuinely offended by seeing it on an internet discussion board? |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: possibly... |
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I guess you're going to find out right away if it is or not...I'm sure the mods will do one of a few things...
1. delete this post...
2. Send you a PM with reasons why it has been deleted, edited or locked...
3. OR do nothing to see what other people think...
Which ever, you will have an answer...  |
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rhinocharge64
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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I actually taught in the U.K. and crap or crappy was forbidden by teachers and students. If I used either of those phrases in front of my mother she would have told me off for swearing. Also, to use in any formal situation would be considered rude, and would therefore say it's technically a swear word. Although a mild blast of profanity (at best) it's still one that you would only use with friends. And no I'm not a man of the cloth, just British.
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kat2
Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I would never say it in front of my grandparents or boss or anything situation thats not totally casual. Its not exactly a swear word, but its somewhere in the same field as "damn." Thats an American perspective. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: possibly... |
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| tob55 wrote: |
I guess you're going to find out right away if it is or not...I'm sure the mods will do one of a few things...
1. delete this post...
2. Send you a PM with reasons why it has been deleted, edited or locked...
3. OR do nothing to see what other people think...
Which ever, you will have an answer... |
The thing with this sort of disappearance is that one is always left wondering whether something borderline was considered inappropriate for a title or whether subsequent discussion of the thread degenerated into inappropriate remarks. Of course it would never occur to any but one or two of the mods to send a one-sentence PM to the OP explaining why. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| kat2 wrote: |
| I would never say it in front of my grandparents or boss or anything situation thats not totally casual. Its not exactly a swear word, but its somewhere in the same field as "damn." Thats an American perspective. |
In Canada it would be somewhat milder than 'damn'. Mind you, in Canada I once heard a priest use 'damn' in a sermon, and no, he wasn't talking about hell and damnation. |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| rhinocharge64 wrote: |
I actually taught in the U.K. and crap or crappy was forbidden by teachers and students. If I used either of those phrases in front of my mother she would have told me off for swearing. Also, to use in any formal situation would be considered rude, and would therefore say it's technically a swear word. Although a mild blast of profanity (at best) it's still one that you would only use with friends. And no I'm not a man of the cloth, just British.
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Same here. I wouldn't use it infront of my granny 
ilovebdt |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ilovebdt wrote: |
| rhinocharge64 wrote: |
I actually taught in the U.K. and crap or crappy was forbidden by teachers and students. If I used either of those phrases in front of my mother she would have told me off for swearing. Also, to use in any formal situation would be considered rude, and would therefore say it's technically a swear word. Although a mild blast of profanity (at best) it's still one that you would only use with friends. And no I'm not a man of the cloth, just British.
Regards |
Same here. I wouldn't use it infront of my granny
ilovebdt |
I wouldn't use it in front of my older relatives, unless perhaps we were outside and someone stepped in a pile of crap. But I can't imagine a teacher at school getting upset at students saying it; they'd probably be thankful the student didn's say sh*t instead.
We must have about the lowest standards of verbal ettiquite in the world, however. In Montreal one of my Quebecoise students used the F-word when she was up at the front making a student presentation to the entire class. |
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latinthrilla
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: not so bad |
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'Crappy' and 'sucky' are really common in Canada for informal conversations but I never heard it in school or at work.
Having said that, I did teach some higher level teenagers the word 'sucky' because they were going to Canada so they would here it a lot. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: not so bad |
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| latinthrilla wrote: |
'Crappy' and 'sucky' are really common in Canada for informal conversations but I never heard it in school or at work.
Having said that, I did teach some higher level teenagers the word 'sucky' because they were going to Canada so they would here it a lot. |
When were you last in a Canadian school? I did some volunteer work at one in 2004 (neither a poor nor affluent school) and walking down the main corridor I'd hear swear words coming from all over the place. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think crap is a "swear" word. What else you gonna say, when you can't say s**t.
They go down in strength:
sh*t
cr*p
poop
doodoo
Number 2
feces. |
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latinthrilla
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: Oppps |
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Sorry, I meant to say that I never heard teachers, profs or supervisors use it when speaking to students or subordinates. Everyone used it when speaking with their friends.
The last time I was in a Canadian school was this Feb when I went back home. Granted it was just to visit some old profs at my uni. I'm 26.
Did you hear it from teachers to students when describing their work though? If you did maybe I should start using crappy to describe some of my kids here as I love that word |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I've heard my professors at University use it. They'd be like "This is an example of a well written thesis. This other one is complete crap." |
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
I don't think crap is a "swear" word. What else you gonna say, when you can't say s**t.
They go down in strength:
sh*t
cr*p
poop
doodoo
Number 2
feces. |
Haha my Grandmother didn't use any of these things to describe it. In front of her, it was always referred to as a "BM". Anything more than that would cause her to get embarassed and awkward haha. At home with my parents, any of the above words could be used to describe it (but we rarely used feces in a conversational sense), but at Grandma's place, it was a BM. |
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rhinocharge64
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I take your point Ya Bum Suk. I heard a lot worse and was called a lot worse during my time in the British educational system.
Student. You (me) fooking idiot
Me. Now, now Natalie, I don't object to idiot, but fucking is a little too much. Could you please leave the room.
Student. Fook off
Needless to say Natalie never quite finished her education and became a single mam at 16. A full on chav with a council house and benefits to to boot. Meanwhile I was working like a colony of ants, and getting taxed to death for the Natalies of this world. Rather ironic, wouldn't you agree? Hence one of the many reasons for my departure from the land of blighty.
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