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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: 2/3s of S.Koreans would side w/North against U.S.?! |
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I was reading an article about North Korea, and on the second page I found a quote that I found hard to believe.
Page One
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/IG11Dg01.html
Page Two
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/IG11Dg02.html
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A poll shows that two of every three South Koreans say they would side with the North in case of war between North Korea and the US. |
I tried to find the original source of this poll, but couldn't. The best I could do was this:
http://prkorea.com/ttboard/ttboard.cgi?category=&search_method=&search_mode=&search_word=&act=view&code=9372&bname=COORDY5&page=1&SearchBlock=1
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In a Gallup/Chosun Ilbo poll released Monday, two-thirds of South Koreans of military age, of both sexes, said they would side with the North in the event of war between the United States and North Korea.
갤럽, 조선일보가 월요일에 실시한 투표에서 군대에 갈수 있는 나이의 전체 남녀중 3분의 2는 미국과 북한 간에 전쟁이 날 경우에 북한편을 지지할 거라고 말했다. |
I find it hard to believe that two-thirds of South Koreans would side with the North Koreans against the U.S. in the event of a war between the two. I'd like to see the poll, its questions, the numbers, and other details for myself. Could someone help me out? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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That's the result of 10 years of the Sunshine Policy. Frankly the survey makes for very unpleasant reading. |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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My wife told me the same. Just ask Koreans. They'll tell you the same. |
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Chosun Ilbo? Isn't that a right wing conservative paper that usually employs these types of tactics? |
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tigerbluekitty
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I say the U.S. should leave those ingrates.
I don't want to pay taxes to keep them safe when they don't appreciate it. |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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However, the US is still in control of the Korean army, so it's not like they'd have much choice who to side with if a war - an unlikely scenario, at least in the near future - did break out. |
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ruffie

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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard of that poll before. I dunno what to make of it. What kind of scenario could they possibly be imagining where SK has the option of choosing between the US and NK? Because a war between the two countries would obviously be a war for control of the Korean peninsula. I mean, are they imagining some scenario where SK and NK join together to kick American troops out of SK? Hell, there need be no war for that, all they have to do is ask. So basically, I just don't even know what the question means. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Location: Nearly in NK
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have found it very much depends on who you speak to. In the South East they are pretty solidly conservative, as is the east cost. Seoul is full of a lot of young dweebs who actually done know if their rectum is punched or bored.
I had to remind one student at my uni that if it wasn't for the US he would be starving to death in North Korea - most of the class agreed.
You'll get the usual anti US crap from them. The Japanese were here for 35 years and everyone professes to hate them. The Americans have been here for 57 years and other than occaisonal tensions, usually when some young soldier does somehting really stupid, but not much. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Ungrateful doesn't even begin to describe it. Really sad. |
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koon_taung_daeng

Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Location: south korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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i actually think its a positive thing, that way it will be easier for americans to identify CHARLIE, if their korean kill um. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Of course. But then the moment they take away their Emart they'll beg for the USA back. |
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cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Nothing a few MOABs can't handle... |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Latest news (and some historical background) on "peace talks":
Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:48 PM IST
By Jon Herskovitz
SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea called on Friday for military talks with the United States for peace and security on the peninsula, with Washington saying it can discuss a peace treaty after Pyongyang abandons its nuclear weapons programme.
Pyongyang, which often muddies the waters ahead of crucial moves concerning its atomic ambitions, is set to receive a team of U.N. nuclear personnel on Saturday who are to oversee the shutdown of its reactor and source of weapons-grade plutonium.
Six-way talks on ending North Korea's nuclear arms programmes are set to resume on Wednesday in Beijing. The North, which has long sought direct talks with the United States, usually holds bilateral meetings with U.S. officials within those discussions.
"The Korean People's Army side proposes having talks between the DPRK and U.S. militaries to be attended by a U.N. representative," the North's military said in a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency.
The North, officially known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, said the talks would be for "discussing the issues related to ensuring the peace and security on the Korean peninsula".
U.S. officials have said in recent weeks that Washington is ready to discuss normalising ties and a peace treaty to end the Korean War if the North follows up on its recent progress in disarmament and completely scraps its atomic arms programme.
An analyst said this may be a ploy from reclusive North Korea to drive a wedge between the United States and its ally, the South.
"The comments appear to be intended to exclude South Korea and China in any talks for a peace treaty and to include the subject of removing U.S. troops from the South as part of the talks," head of North Korean military research at the Korea Institute for Defence Analyses, Baek Seung-joo said.
FOUR-WAY DIALOGUE?
There have been reports in South Korean media that officials are seeking a four-way dialogue among China, the two Koreas and the United States to examine a peace treaty. The North may have been responding to these reports, Baek said.
The 1950-1953 Korean War ended in a truce. The United States, which led U.N. forces, was a signatory to the armistice as well as North Korea and its ally, China. South Korea did not sign.
The United States stations about 30,000 troops in the South to support the country's some 670,000 strong military against an attack by the North.
The North repeated an oft-used line that the United States is bringing the peninsula to the brink of nuclear war and called on it to stop joint military drills with the South as well as cut out what it saw as a hostile policy to stifle it.
"It is the undeniable and legitimate right of the DPRK to have in place all the necessary self-defensive means to cope with the threat and blackmail of the U.S. in order to protect its right to existence," the North's statement said.
In a February deal among the two Koreas, China, Japan, Russia and the United States, the North agreed to close its antiquated Yongbyon reactor in return for 50,000 tonnes of oil aid.
On Friday, staff from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) arrived in Beijing on their way to North Korea the next day. The technicians will prepare to monitor and verify the shutdown of the Yongbyon facilities, which can produce plutonium for nuclear weapons.
The chief of the IAEA group, Adel Tolba, sounded a note of optimism. "With the kind of help which we got from the DPRK in the last few weeks, we think we will do our job in a successful way," he told reporters. He refused to discuss details.
http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2007-07-13T124622Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_India-284523-3.xml |
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genezorm

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Mokpo
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:17 am Post subject: |
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i would support the north |
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