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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: Korean vs. other beef I put it to a test |
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Try this people. Went to my in-laws and mom and dad hate going out or ordering out. So I went to Emart and bought some Korean beef and some Aussie beef. So on the way home I switched the contents.
I cooked it all up and said this is Korean and this is Australian. They were moaning and groaning over how good the Korean beef was. Then they ate a bit of mine and said "not as good as the other". I said really?
I almost wanted to laugh my a$$ off in their faces. Usually my wife isn't one of those dumb Korean you hear about. But for the last week she's been telling me her sister can tell the difference between Korean beef and other. I put it to a test.
Told my wife...she wasn't impressed with me.
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: |
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That's absolutely hilarious. I've read of a similar prank played on so called "water sommeliers" at high end restaurants, where they get them to taste new kinds of high end water, except it's actually tap water. Sure enough, they claim to tell the difference and what meals each is suited for.
How can you tell at E-Mart which is which though? Does one say "ho ju" (no hangeul on this keyboard)? I haven't seen it, but if you say it's there I'll look for it. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Korean vs. other beef I put it to a test |
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Pak Yu Man wrote: |
Usually my wife is one of those dumb Korean you hear about. |
Dude - nice thinking about your wife
I can tell between Korean and Aussie beef if it is cooked medium and of course with no spicies....so not in a stew but say grilled on charcoal grill or western style steak. Aussie beef has a bad smell to it (and I buy fresh stuff so its not past expiration date). However, in chain restaurants like Outback/Bennigans which all serve Aussie beef it is OK. I think it is more fresh there than in the stores. Also, Korean beef when grilled Korean style is more tender. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Korean vs. other beef I put it to a test |
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Pak Yu Man wrote: |
Try this people. Went to my in-laws and mom and dad hate going out or ordering out. So I went to Emart and bought some Korean beef and some Aussie beef. So on the way home I switched the contents.
I cooked it all up and said this is Korean and this is Australian. They were moaning and groaning over how good the Korean beef was. Then they ate a bit of mine and said "not as good as the other". I said really?
I almost wanted to laugh my a$$ off in their faces. Usually my wife is one of those dumb Korean you hear about. But for the last week she's been telling me her sister can tell the difference between Korean beef and other. I put it to a test.
Told my wife...she wasn't impressed with me. |
This isn't really surprising. I'll tell you a similar story.
I used to work in a coffee shop at night (Caribou, yay!) and this one dude who had been there way too long and was severely jaded told me things that pissed him off. (Like rich people who vacation in France and come back calling a croissant a kwaszan.) So there was this one college-aged chick who used to come in a lot and drink a bunch of coffee, then bug around all over the place for the next hour talking about how "buzzed" she was from the caffeine. So one day he started switching out the regular for decaf, her unawares, and her "I'm so buzzed" routine continued full throttle.
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How can you tell at E-Mart which is which though? Does one say "ho ju" (no hangeul on this keyboard)? I haven't seen it, but if you say it's there I'll look for it. |
Yeah, and it's usually cheaper a far sight.
europe2seoul wrote: |
Pak Yu Man wrote: |
Usually my wife is one of those dumb Korean you hear about. |
Dude - nice thinking about your wife |
I figured it was a typo. Let's promote gracious reading! |
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KOREAN_MAN
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I thought it was a health issue, not a taste issue. Anyways, it seems like a lot of Koreans are welcoming cheap American beef. I hope nobody gets sick. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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That protest of American beef coming in because of how cows are treated, the beef is bad for your health, etc. has got to be one of the most uniformed, presupposed, bulshiat things out there.
Anyway, Korean beef is great. More so because you know it's fresh. I get them to cut my steaks for me right at the supermarket and they pull it out of an unopened, sealed bag. Rib-eye.
The ground beef is good, too. I bought about 11,000 worth tonight and will be cooking up some monster cheeseburgers (lean beef), medium tonight. Can't wait.
Don't listen to people who say the leanest is too lean. Sure, there's no fat, but I've gotten the fatter kind of Korean beef and it just gets too pasty. Koreans will often tell me (at the super) that the fatter is more delicious. Not so if you want to cook it not well done.
I don't have a damn bbq and I have to get off my ass to get one. I cook on a frying pan (beef with no oil and it sticks if I don't watch it in the beginning) and it's tricky to pick the right time to stop cooking so it doesn't get too well done.
Must purchase a bbq grill. |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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[quote Anyway, Korean beef is great. More so because you know it's fresh. I get them to cut my steaks for me right at the supermarket and they pull it out of an unopened, sealed bag. Rib-eye. quote]
To each his own and the majority agree that korean beef is not that great. I have been to a number of large scale cattle farms over the years in korea and I have seen the food these cattle have been fed at various times. Scrap food from collected from restaurants mixed with manure. Pigs are feed the same as well. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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hellofaniceguy wrote: |
[quote Anyway, Korean beef is great. More so because you know it's fresh. I get them to cut my steaks for me right at the supermarket and they pull it out of an unopened, sealed bag. Rib-eye. quote]
To each his own and the majority agree that korean beef is not that great. I have been to a number of large scale cattle farms over the years in korea and I have seen the food these cattle have been fed at various times. Scrap food from collected from restaurants mixed with manure. Pigs are feed the same as well. |
The steaks and burgers I've been eating are great. I buy from Hanaro Mart mostly.
Big 2-inch, 2 pounder rib eye steaks. Lean as hell.
You sound a lot like the Koreans who were protesting the US beef coming in. |
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xenok
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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beef makers are in it for the money (duh). it doesn't matter if the beef is from US, Australia or Korea, the bovines are fed the cheapest feed the manufacturers can get away with. the only exceptions are the premium stuff like Kobe and probably Wagyu beef. i hear Argentine beef is also exceptional although i have not had the pleasure of trying it.
anyway, i would assume almost all beef i buy are from cows fed with hormone juiced feed, regardless of its origin.
anyone read Fast Food Nation? |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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It seems people like claiming meat from their own country is the best.
Try the mix test anywhere and I bet 90%+ can't tell which beef is from where. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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El carne de Argentina es lo mejor!
I'm no beef conoisseur (and I probably mispelled that word) but Argentine beef is indeed heavenly ...I lived there 6 months and now other beef just tastes like burnt garbage to me(or what I would suppose burnt garbage would taste like). |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Argentine beef is the best in the world in my opinion. They are grass fed (as opposed to grain fed) free range cows. Therefore, they are treated better and are much better nutritionally speaking. I have heard even the protein in other beefs has been steadily dropping over the years as well as well as the amount of CLA (Conjugated linoleic acid)* dropping. American, Korean or European beef is crap in comparison.
* Conjugated linoleic acid
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) refers to a family of many isomers of linoleic acid (at least 13 are reported), which are found primarily in the meat and dairy products of ruminants. As implied by the name, the double bonds of CLAs are conjugated.
Conjugated linoleic acid is a trans fat, though some researchers claim that it is not harmful in the same fashion as other trans fatty acids, but rather is beneficial.[citation needed] CLA is a conjugated system, and in the United States, trans linkages in a conjugated system are not counted as trans fat for the purposes of nutritional regulations and labeling. Unlike most trans fatty acids found in the human diet, CLA occurs naturally, produced by microorganisms in the fore-stomach of ruminants. Non-ruminants, such as humans, may be able to produce some isomers of CLA from non-conjugated ruminant fats. One such example is vaccenic acid, which could be converted to CLA by delta-9-desaturase.[1]
CLA comes in two isomers: the c9,t11 isomer (rumenic acid) which appears responsible for improving muscle growth,[citation needed] and the t10,c12 isomer which primarily prevents lipogenesis (storage of fat in adipose tissue). Most supplements sold in stores contain a 50/50 mix of both isomers. [2]
Various antioxidant and anti-tumor properties have been attributed to CLA, and studies on mice and rats show promising results; however, it is suspected that sufficient concentrations to achieve anti-inflammatory effects within human tissues may not be attainable via oral consumption.[citation needed]
Many studies on CLA in humans show a tendency for reduced body fat[3], particularly abdominal fat, changes in serum total lipids and decreased whole body glucose uptake. The maximum reduction in body fat mass was achieved with a 3.4 g daily dose[4].
CAS registry number: 2420-56-6, Molecular Formula: C18H32O2
Other benefits
CLA may be beneficial in other aspects, including prevention of breast and colon cancer.[citation needed]
Additional potential benefits include a reduction in food-induced allergic reactions, as well as the overall enhancement of the immune system. [1]
Food products of grass-fed ruminants (eg lamb, beef) are good sources, and contain much more CLA than those from grain-fed animals. [7] In fact, products of grass fed animals can produce 300-500% more CLA than cows fed the typical diet of 50% hay and silage with 50% grain. [8]
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Korean vs. other beef I put it to a test |
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europe2seoul wrote: |
Pak Yu Man wrote: |
Usually my wife is one of those dumb Korean you hear about. |
Dude - nice thinking about your wife
I can tell between Korean and Aussie beef if it is cooked medium and of course with no spicies....so not in a stew but say grilled on charcoal grill or western style steak. Aussie beef has a bad smell to it (and I buy fresh stuff so its not past expiration date). However, in chain restaurants like Outback/Bennigans which all serve Aussie beef it is OK. I think it is more fresh there than in the stores. Also, Korean beef when grilled Korean style is more tender. |
Wow. Sorry. That was supposed to say "usually my wife isn't one of those dumb Koreans".
That's why I luv her so. She doesn't drive me nuts like other Koreans.
Omit one word and a huge difference.
Edit: How do you tell the difference? If you don't speak/read Korean, the beef that is double the price is Korean beef. |
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normalcyispasse

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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xenok wrote: |
the only exceptions are the premium stuff like Kobe and probably Wagyu beef. |
These are one and the same. "Wagyu" actually just means "Japanese cow" (Wa = Japanese; gyu = cattle), but the term "wagyu" is applied to several types of cattle and is also known as Kobe cattle.
That said, cattle that are raised to be sold as USDA Prime beef are fed different diets and often herded free- or open-range. Kobe beef may have the best reputation in the world, and it's probably deserved (the cattle are given routine massages to break up the fat deposits and increase marbling) but they're not the only cattle in the world like that. |
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normalcyispasse

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Guri Guy wrote: |
Argentine beef is the best in the world in my opinion. They are grass fed (as opposed to grain fed) free range cows. Therefore, they are treated better and are much better nutritionally speaking. I have heard even the protein in other beefs has been steadily dropping over the years as well as well as the amount of CLA (Conjugated linoleic acid)* dropping. American, Korean or European beef is crap in comparison.
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Muscle tissue is all protein (by definition). The only way the protein in beef would drop would be if you consumed a smaller slice, or if the meat were fattier.
As for CLA, 1) the efficacy of CLA in diet (especially as a supplement) is still very much up for debate, and 2) CLA is much easier to obtain via dairy sources. |
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