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[therooster]

Look . As an objective and impartial observer let me tell you that both the U.S.A and Canadians suck .

Each in your own special way .

Now make way for some grossly unfair generilisations and stereotypes .

Americans sadly just don't think things through . They seem to think the best way to solve conflict is to be pro-active in face it head on . The reality of the matter is they just don't have a clue about important little things like "considering the consequences of their actions " .

Canadians on the other hand do sweet *beep* all about anything .




Just kidding . I probably say these things because deep down I just hate freedom .

[mateomiguel]

[The Bobster]

[Vancouver]

[JZer]

[twg]

[stevemcgarrett]

Oh, lookee: yet another thinly disguised American bashing thread. Oh, sure, I can laugh at myself and my nation's excesses but some of these posts are just political posturing and taking sideswipes.

waynehead wrote:

[Beej]

When the US government screws up around the world: Abu Graib, Guantanamo; who breaks the story? The London Times? Le Monde? The Korea Herald? No its the New York Times, Washington Post. The US government cant stop them. This is very telling about freedom of the press in the USA. When Abu Graib broke, I remember Chinese bloggers being very impressed about this phenomenon.

No one criticzes America more than ourselves.

[The Bobster]

[Geckoman]

Racism is in fact a major problem in Canada. And it is chasing away immigrants. Canada has an international reputation for being racist.

Just recently an adult Korean student told me how she lived in Canada for one year and how she experienced racism against her by Canadians there. One time someone threw some coins at her because of her race. She cried. Not from the force of the coins but because of the cruelty of being discriminated against because of her race. I think Canada has a lot to learn from America. I've heard adult Korean students say that of the Western nations, the US is the least racist.

I do know that Canada is behind America when it comes to race issues.
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Example 1:
In America, we commonly refer to non-white American minorities as "minority race + American." For example, we say "Asian-American," "African-American, etc. I know that the only minority that Canadians will do that for are "French-Canadians."

But other Canadian minorities are not given that respect and so, for example, Canadians of Chinese extraction are just called "Chinese," instead of "Chinese-Canadians," despite the fact that they are Canadian citizens (or shall we say Canadian subjects of the Queen) and pay taxes and are permanent residents and positive members of society. Despite these facts they are still refered to as "Chinese" and not "Chinese-Canadians" and so are made to feel like they do not belong and are foreigners.

I like to think that with the popularity of the American useage of "minority race + American," such "minority race + Canadian" usage will eventually take root in Canada.

It is a total outrage for Canadians to refer to Canadians of a minority race as just that minority race and not put the word "Canadian" with it even though they are really Canadians who happen to be of a minority extraction.

The only minority group given the honor of "minority race + Canadian" are French-Canadians and all other minorities are identified as just non-Canadians. Total outrage!
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Example 2:
Furthermore, another example of Canadaian racism is their discriminatory law(s) that do not recognizes foreign degrees.

As a result of such discriminatory laws there are all these very highly educated immigrants who have to work at very poor working-class jobs. Doctors, engineers, etc., are forced to work as working-class jobs and so are forced into poverty. All their hard work to get their degree(s), along with their talent and knowledge, goes to waste in Canada.

The US does not have such discriminatory laws and recognizes foreign degrees. After all, we see all those Canadians with Canadian degrees able to use those degrees in America. That is one of the reasons why there is a brain drain from Canada to America. We do not discriminate against Canadians or any other foreigners.

I heard about this Canadian discriminatory law(s) over a year ago and how as a result of such discriminatory policies many Canadian immigrants were in turn immigrating to the US from Canada! True story! Due to the legal discrimination they faced in Canada they were foced to live in poverty and so as a result they were immigrating to the US from Canada!

And naturally these Canadian immigrants told their relatives and friends back in their original country of how they are forced to live in poverty due to Canada's discriminatory law(s) and so to not immigrate to Canada but to the US (or maybe elsewhere). This has hurt Canada's international reputation, particularly with inspring immigrants.

In fact, one of my adult Korean students recently shared with the class such a story dealing with her uncle. Her uncle is a surgeon from Korea who immigrated to Canada but because the discriminatory laws in Canada did not recongize his degree he was forced to work as a truck driver. Surgeon to truck driver! Major step down!

In fact, this policy is even hurting Canadians who leave Canada. I've read how Canadians who go to medical school outside of Canada, including the US, are legally prohibited from working as a doctor in Canada, as so as a result many Canadians are leaving Canada forever and immigrating to the US.

I learned about this by reading a very imformative website by such a Canadian who finally gave up hope of ever being able to work in his/her home country as a doctor because he/she went to medical school outside of Canada. After giving up hope of being able to work in Canada he/she settled in the US and he/she even advised other Canadians who did not go to medical school in Canada to just face the fact that Canada will never change and they should leave Canada forever. In fact, he/she even recommended that individuals who go to medical school outside of Canada to marry an American as that will help them get permanent residency status and citizenship in the US.
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To learn more about the history of racism in Canada (against Blacks, Native Indians, Asians, Jews, etc.) see "The History of Racism in Canada"
at http://www.hopesite.ca/remember/history/racism_canada_1.html

Before we can fix a problem people need to be aware of it and recongize it. That is why I'm posting this info. So that there can be education and discussion about it. Canada needs to change. Together we can make it happen.

[merlot]

[trubadour]

[bjonothan]

I hate it how Canadians always turn things around into talking about your own country. One of the worst things about being in Korea, was listening to the Canadians talk about their country all the time. Can't you fellas start a forum called "Let's all have a rant about how good Canada is" instead of constantly referring to it in the rest of the forums on here all the time?

[blondebecky]

[jindodog]

someone posted before about how there are too many 'self-loathing americans' who are just trying 'to get in good with their european friends'

i think that's a bit unfair. I was very much a 'self-loathing' american before i came to Korea...um, that's why i left the country in the first place, just had to get out.

and i 'knew' the world hated americans, but i was really shocked, and quite frankly hurt, by all of the american bashing i have to put up with here. sure i agree with a lot of it, and a lot of it is funny, but after awhile i start to feel really beat down and truly loathed by others.

I really can't help where I was born, and how my culture/society functions. there are a lot of americans who dont like the same things about america that everyone else hates. but its like when you say, "gawd, my mom is such a b*tch" its fine when you say it, but when your best friend says "yeah, your mom is a b*tch" you gotta punch them in the face. so in the end, I defend my country abroad more than i ever would at home.
stop hating you haters
cant we all just get along and at least try not to judge eachother by nationality and race?