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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Question: what possible remake would have you screaming bloody murder?
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly for me. |
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skinhead
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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I'd never have believed that the Coens could have transcended their own maximum of crappy with that Clooney thing. Then they went and did that Tom Hanks thing. I had my brow in the palm of my hand for the longest time both during and after that viewing. Some members of audience speculated that I'd lost a relative. In many ways, I had. Joel?! Ethan?! How could you?
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skinhead
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
Question: what possible remake would have you screaming bloody murder?
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly for me. |
Mad Max |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| The Bourne Identity. The original Made for TV Movie followed the book very accurately and as a result was much more interesting. |
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alwaysfaithless
Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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| There was a really bad King Kong remake done in the seventies. It stared Jennifer Lang. |
The actress is Jessica Lange. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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I thought the Psycho do-over was particularly annoying as a remake. With Gus Van Sant directing I expected a bit more than a shot by shot copy. What's the point of that? And then there's god awful updates of kitsch classics like Oceans 11.
Most of the remakes that irk the most are the Hollywood remakes of European films, Solaris, The Vanishing and particularly Nikita.
Still there's been some good ones. I thought the newer Lolita and the Dawn of the Dead were great, because they made the stories much more believable and relevant than the originals with outdated acting and effects. They're not going to make film history, but introduced some classics to new audiences.
And Little Shop of Horrors made a very dodgy horror movie a musical and swapped Jack Nicholson for the nerdy guy from Honey I Shrunk the Kids and still made it awesome. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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How about "The Pink Panther". I heard it was so bad that I'll never watch it.
I thought the Jessica Lange version was much better than the recent one. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| Most of the remakes that irk the most are the Hollywood remakes of European films, Solaris, The Vanishing and particularly Nikita. |
Taxi was horrible as well.
As much as the Euro-remakes are bad, the Asian remakes are worse. Ring? Grudge? The shit with Sandra Bullock in Jeon Ji-hyun's role? Ugh! I will not watch any of the remakes they have planned for the near future: Battle Royale, Waterboys, Old Boy(!!), My Wife is a Gangster, and Sassy Girl.
Speaking of remakes I will not watch: Deathrace 3000 (remake of Deathrace 2000). |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Get Carter |
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beachbumNC
Joined: 30 May 2007
Location: Gumi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
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the made for tv remake of The Shining was pretty weak.
as far as remakes that would make me mad, probably Bullitt. oh, and The Goonies. |
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SMKOREA
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Xanadu is working out pretty well...
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Springtime for ‘Xanadu’
Can the famously nonsensical disco-movie flop make it on Broadway?
s a film, the 1980 Olivia Newton-John roller-disco fable Xanadu was the epic failure to end all epic failures—for a few years, anyway, until Ishtar. It flummoxed the Times reviewer, who complained, “Too many different things are going on here, and they don’t have much to do with one another,” before dismissing it as a “desperately stylish” movie “best watched with your eyes closed.” It was nominated for six Razzies that year—its director won one—and inspired reviews such as the one-word “Xana-don’t!”
So why did an adaptation begin previews at the Helen Hayes Theatre last week? Even in this era when a Broadway musical isn’t a Broadway musical unless some element of dismay is expressed at its source material, Xanadu is a tough sell. When Douglas Carter Beane, the playwright whose The Little Dog Laughed is up for the Tony for Best Play this year, was approached about redoing the script to lend it some coherence, he wasn’t sure he wanted to get involved. “At first I said, ‘No way: This is theater suicide wrapped up in a nice box,’ ” he remembers.
He eventually came around. After all, Xanadu has developed one of the more impassioned cult audiences in bad-movie history; YouTube is rife with amateur tributes. But more important, there’s the music. Packed with shimmery, romantic pop songs by the British arena-synth band Electric Light Orchestra and John Farrar (who composed all of Newton-John’s hits from “Have You Never Been Mellow” to “Physical”), it was one of the biggest albums of 1980, spawning five top-twenty singles, hitting No. 4 on the album chart, and accompanying millions of proms and surrendered virginities.
Beane liked the music too. Besides, “I loved the idea that it played into Broadway’s tendency to take itself seriously in a really aggressively provocative way,” Beane says. “It’s like, ‘You don’t like jukebox musicals? We’ll give you two jukebox musicals in one. You don’t like movies onstage? We’re going to take the worst movie ever made—how about that?’”
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he show’s producer, Robert Ahrens, is a very tanned, very young-looking 37-year-old who seems like he should be well beyond his adolescent trauma. But as a teenager, Ahrens felt betrayed by Xanadu. “I had an idea of what the film was before I saw it,” he says. “I thought it was this mysterious paradise. I thought it would answer a question, I guess, like, ‘What is Xanadu?’ I thought it was going to be illuminating.”
BACKSTORY
After Jane Krakowski dropped out as the lead, the Broadway chat rooms reported that the role was offered to seven actresses, from Sarah Jessica Parker to Veronica Mars’s Kristen Bell, and declined by all. “In this process, I have been fascinated by the level of lies going on,” says Douglas Carter Beane, who adapted the movie for stage. “Sarah Jessica Parker read it and passed? She didn’t!”
Based on the 1947 Rita Hayworth vehicle Down to Earth—in which Terpsichore, a muse from ancient Greece, infiltrates a Broadway show about the nine muses, inspiring the composers to change it for the sake of accuracy, thus producing a flop—the 1980 Olivia Newton-John vehicle centers on Kira, a muse from ancient Greece who is transported to Venice Beach to inspire a frustrated young artist and a forties bandleader to open a roller-skating nightclub. Newton-John, very hot off Grease, played Kira as Australian, for reasons unelucidated by the script. Gene Kelly was the aging musician. The male lead, Michael Beck, had starred in The Warriors, the previous year’s Pauline Kael–approved fantasia about New York City street gangs. (Andy Gibb, a Newton-John friend and Beck’s doppelg�nger, had originally signed but dropped out, perhaps wisely opting to stay home and snort cocaine instead.)
“Basically,” says Beane, “it’s what happens when you let straight men near the musical.”
Produced by a young Joel Silver, the film was directed by Robert Greenwald, whose previous efforts (the TV movies Katie: Portrait of a Centerfold, Sharon: Portrait of a Mistress, and Flatbed Annie & Sweetiepie: Lady Truckers) had not prepared him to depict the ambitious post-disco universe required. The screenplay, where evident, is a bewildering mash-up of forties swing and eighties proto-punk, mortal and supernatural elements, tap dancing and roller-skating. The last half-hour is basically an opera, indicating surrender in the editing suite; it all ends in a production number involving five mimes, two tightrope walkers, six dozen roller skaters, and Olivia Newton-John gamely singing “Open your eyes and see / What we have made is real” in a medley, wearing a bronze jumpsuit, cowboy regalia, and what appears to be a thin sheen of vegetable oil. She looked beautiful, and sang beautifully, but “the main trouble was the script,” says Newton-John, who is performing Xanadu’s hits on a tour of Asia. “We had so many story changes during filming.”
“I blame cocaine,” says Beane of the film’s glazed messiness. “It’s like people say, ‘When you hear Ray Charles play, you can hear the heroin’? When you watch Xanadu, you can see the cocaine up on the screen.”
Consequently, Xanadu is a secret pop-culture club that works on both distant and deeply affecting levels: You can openly scoff at the story line but secretly admire the love songs. (Next month, the Provincetown International Film Festival—Kathleen Turner and Alan Cumming are promised guests—will screen the film and host a sing-along.) |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh please. The Godzilla remake they ddi a few years back sucks much more ass |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
Question: what possible remake would have you screaming bloody murder?
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly for me. |
Ever heard of The Good, the Bad, and the Weird?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0901487/
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"�I blame cocaine,� says Beane of the film�s glazed messiness. �It�s like people say, �When you hear Ray Charles play, you can hear the heroin�? When you watch Xanadu, you can see the cocaine up on the screen.� "
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Indeed. I was just a kid when I saw it on TV and I knew something was clouding the judgment of the people who made that movie.
What about Evil Dead and its remake Evil Dead 2? I wouldn't say the sequel is crap. It's basically the same movie: same story, same actors, same film crew, etc. Just a bigger budget. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
Question: what possible remake would have you screaming bloody murder?
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly for me. |
Return Of The Jedi
Spaceballs
The 3 Amigos |
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