Korean Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - Woman offloaded plane cuz of psycho biatch flight attendant

Speak Korean Now!

Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!

Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"

FAQ

Memberlist

Usergroups

Profile

Woman offloaded plane cuz of psycho biatch flight attendant
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3 ... 10, 11, 12, 13 Next

Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author

Message

periwinkle

Joined: 08 Feb 2003

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject:

yingwenlaoshi wrote:

I also hate it when people put their babies in their avatars. Sort of a pet peeve.

Too bad for you. Crusher stays.

Summer Wine

Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:18 am Post subject:

Quote:

Crusher stays.

Damm, thats a hell of a name to live up too.

I love it. But still!

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:04 am Post subject:

periwinkle wrote:

yingwenlaoshi wrote:

I also hate it when people put their babies in their avatars. Sort of a pet peeve.

Too bad for you. Crusher stays.

Hehe. As does baby_bird. Razz

just alittlecrazy

Joined: 30 Nov 2006

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:38 am Post subject:

it would seem that in this case the attendants actions were extreme:

Quote:

By the time the plane had taxied to the gate, Garren was fast asleep, Penland said.

They were still forced off the plane, and Penland and Garren were left to fend for themselves and find a place to sleep.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=3371901&page=1

however, in general, i still think that parents need to make traveling as comfortable as possible for themselves, their children and other travelers. after all your children aren't anyone else�s little darlings.

yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:07 am Post subject:

periwinkle wrote:

yingwenlaoshi wrote:

I also hate it when people put their babies in their avatars. Sort of a pet peeve.

Too bad for you. Crusher stays.

I'm staging a protest. Laughing

Hanson

Joined: 20 Oct 2004

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:22 am Post subject:

billybrobby wrote:

tzechuk wrote:

sirfro wrote:

tzechuk wrote:

billybrobby wrote:

I say good. People with babies shouldn't even get on planes.

what you've said is one of the most offensive things to say to a parent.

That's taking it a little far.
There are far more offensive things that could be said and I think you know it.
I've been on many flights that are 12 hours or more, and having a screaming child when you and everyone else on board wants sleep is one of the most annoying things...even to a parent.

It is offensive to me because it is implying that parents with young children should be grounded

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying. I mean, c'mon, where are you going with that baby? Where does the baby possibly need to go? As if the baby is saing, "Hmm...I'd rather wet myself in Denver for a few days." The baby doesn't know. I don't remember anything before I was 6. You might as well stay home.

And you might say, "Well, *I* want to go to Denver." And if you think that you getting to Denver is worth annoying everybody around you for hours on end, then I guess that's your decision.

At any rate, I knew I'd make you crack one day, Tzechuck!

Many parents bring their kids on planes so other family members can spend time with them. I know you were originally trying to be funny, but my mom only gets to see her granddaughter once a year...

And for those of you who seem to think it's easy to control a baby on a flight (not to mention a 17-20 hour connection), what, pray tell, do YOU suggest - I'm all ears!

I've never heard truer words about having children: "You'll never understand until you have some of your own."

yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:47 am Post subject:

Hanson wrote:

billybrobby wrote:

tzechuk wrote:

sirfro wrote:

tzechuk wrote:

billybrobby wrote:

I say good. People with babies shouldn't even get on planes.

what you've said is one of the most offensive things to say to a parent.

It is offensive to me because it is implying that parents with young children should be grounded

Yeah, it's true. I'll admit. I never said that babies shouldn't be allowed on flights.

Come on people. People that have babies are people too.

I'm like one of the most easy going people there is.

Except when I'm drunk. AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject:

Hanson wrote:

And for those of you who seem to think it's easy to control a baby on a flight (not to mention a 17-20 hour connection), what, pray tell, do YOU suggest - I'm all ears!

I asked that question on page 2:

Quote:

I'm sorry, but I don't remember anything from child psychology class on how to extinguish "bye bye plane"-saying behavior.

and creesschaef answered it on page 6:

Quote:

Well, if you think that you are going to get all parenting advice from child psychology class, you are dead wrong. You know how you extinguish that behavior? Give the kid something to take his mind off of the plane. If that doesn't work, entertain the kid, interact with him, be a good parent.

Isn't it wonderful that you can go on Dave's ESL Cafe and find all the answers to all the world's problems?

Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject:

You'll notice that the story only covers the mother's version of events, which makes it appear that the flight attendant was being completely ridiculous. I'm sure if we heard the attendant's version, or those of some of the other passengers, we'd hear about the baby doing a bit more than just saying "bye bye plane", like perhaps screaming uncontrollably. I'm sure the full story would have been much less outrageous, and therefore, much less newsworthy.

Been There, Taught That

Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject:

sirfro wrote:

billybrobby wrote:

I say good. People with babies shouldn't even get on planes.

I agree.

Apparently not two 'people with babies'. Apparently not free of that immaturity thing themselves.

Well, I know people have their reasons, but 'bye, bye plane' is not a good one for stranding someone. So they shouldn't get on planes, so they should medicate their children: all opinions, and nothing in them says it's right to take immediate action when faced with the situation. Stewardii are paid to grin and bear it, and to read the rule book of the skies which says children of any age are NOT illegal on airplanes. In fact, they often fly free for the first few moments of their lives.

In the best case scenario, this stewardette will no longer be paid to fly at all, and will successfully transition to an earthbound career with her waitressing skills. In a perfect world, this same mother and child would show up to order from her, and offer a weak apology for the spilled chocolate milk, which the waitress should then NOT cry over.

In a free world, no opinion, be it from scholarly research or bad-day attitude, should be allowed to become a barrier to the lawful exercise of common rights and privileges. Flying on a plane with children is one of them.

So, work it ooouuut, people.

I vote the next time the waitress pulls the attitude card, it be after the plane takes off and then she be made to take a flying leap out a cabin window.

Hey, we all have opinions, and yet we survive.

tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject:

Let all Dave's mothers unite! Letty loves her photo here, so too bad for all your baby-avatar haters!!!!

yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject:

tzechuk wrote:

Let all Dave's mothers unite!

Letty loves her photo here, so too bad for all your baby-avatar haters!!!! Razz

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Cool

JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject:

tzechuk wrote:

Let all Dave's mothers unite!

Letty loves her photo here, so too bad for all your baby-avatar haters!!!! Razz

Remember the big Baby Avatar Battle of... was it 2005? These things seem to come in cycles.

Anyone remember my avatar from around that time?

periwinkle wrote:

Wow- this thread really didn't go the way I thought it would. I figured everyone would comment about how badly the flight attendant handled the situation (at least that's what I thought). [...]

Anyway, really interesting how intolerant some ppl are. Didn't you guys ever travel as kids?

You know what? I think if you had started this thread back three or four years ago, it would have petered out around Page 2. There would have been a few posts about the article in your OP, who's right & who's wrong, then the rank & file of Dave's would agree that being trapped onboard long-haul flights with screaming babies/toddlers is one of Dante's Circles, and that would have been that. End of discussion, no big, long, hairy, 11-page debate about poor parenting or intolerance.

But fast-forward to 2007 and it's a totally different conversation. Oh, the annoyance is still there: screaming babies & toddlers on long-haul flights continue to rank among the worst tortures know to modern man. But what's changed is there are so many new Board Mommies & Board Daddies now. And they're sensitive and feisty -- understandably, because they're suddenly seen as "the enemy". The ESL community in Korea seems to be aging, and it's hanging around longer & longer. This thread is an illustration of that fact more than of anything else.

Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:12 am Post subject:

So yesterday on the way to Vancouver seated across the aisle three seats over from me was a family with a 5-6-year-old retarded boy who spent half the flight screaming 'wae! wae! wae!' while hitting himself. After a string of good luck avoiding noisy little children it seems my luck had run out.

Been There, Taught That

Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject:

tomato wrote:

They told me that the whole country revolves around children--there are day care centers, piano studios, art studios, English schools, and karate schools everywhere. Furthermore, children in restaurants are allowed to climb under the furniture and visit other restaurant patrons.

That's exactly what I discovered, also. There's a definite concern that future adults start out in the right direction, however Korean culture and history and present-day geopolitical and national mores define that to be.

Therefore, there's also long been a concern that Western influence is a mixed blessing, at best.

Display posts from previous:

	Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum	All times are GMT - 8 Hours Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3 ... 10, 11, 12, 13 Next
Page 11 of 13

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe