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lostandforgotten
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:37 am Post subject: Any Korean-English Bilinguals out there? |
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If you are a bilingual in Korean and English, do you pretend to not know any Korean or speak broken Korean on purpose in order to stoop down to Koreans' standards/notion of what is a 'Native English Speaker'?
I had a Korean teacher tongue-tied because she was confused as to whether she should speak to me in English or Korean. So every time she sees me, she ignores me because obviously she hasn't figured out which language to approach me in. LOL. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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I gotta do that to the students. To the other teachers, I'll speak Korean if they approach me in KOrean, or English if they approach me in English. Often times, they will ask me if its ok if I just speak Korean or just English. I'm pretty sure if my school would let me speak Korean in the classroom, my coteacher would have no reason to be a coeacher with me. |
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procrastinatrix
Joined: 01 May 2006 Location: Sinchon
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: |
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my English is definitely better than my Korean but i'm always amazed that so many people think that you can only be good at one language, or because i'm ethnically Korean, I can't possibly as good as white people at English. My distant uncle owns a hagwon and actually asked me "but your English isn't perfect like americans' right?" and i was just like "um...I AM american. it IS perfect. thanks."
anyway sometimes when I'm out and about I pretend I don't know Korean because i like to hear people talking when they think I don't understand...a twisted pleasure of mine |
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excitinghead

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Any Korean-English Bilinguals out there? |
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lostandforgotten wrote: |
I had a Korean teacher tongue-tied because she was confused as to whether she should speak to me in English or Korean. So every time she sees me, she ignores me because obviously she hasn't figured out which language to approach me in. LOL. |
I had similar problems with my colleagues being unable to handle the fact that I can speak English and reasonable Korean. I have two jobs at the moment, and at the first one I made the mistake of talking to everyone in English when I first arrived. After that, they put me in their "English-speaking person" slot and so to most of them (but not all) when I speak Korean it just doesn't register. I don't care anymore and just speak English, its quicker than dealing with their black and white-views of languages.
But I didn't make the same mistake when I started work at another building for the same company and never used English. So all of them, including the English teachers, speak to me in Korean and don't think its strange at all. |
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gyopogirlfromtexas

Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Location: Austin,Texas
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm bilingual too. My brother told me better act like I don't know any though. Well, it's elementary level anyway. Last time I was visiting Korea, 11 yrs ago, I got chewed out a lot. The whole having a Korean face with not being able to be perfect in Korean is the most humiliating thing lecture. Those people really get on my nerves. Why can't they just mind their own business and leave me alone. Even when I say I grew up in America, they're always saying that's no excuse. You are Korean, and you should be perfect in Korean. But how they are so mad about it, like me not being perfect in Korean ruined their day or something. Lot of other people told me to act like I don't know it at work, maybe they might try to take advantage of me and give me more work. I don't know what the deal is with the Korean. If I have to hide knowing it, or if it'll hurt me at work or what. |
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kigolo1881

Joined: 30 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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its more fun when you're trilingual. |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Do you speak Yugoslavian? When they say no - I say why not? I explain that it makes as much sense that I should speak Korean as it does that they should speak Yugoslavian. They did not grow up in Yugoslavia - I did not grow up in Korea.
It seems like a lot of Gyopos who can speak Korean say that they can not and speak only English. However, the �cat has been let out of the bag� over the years so now even if you can not - it will be assumed you can speak Korean. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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gyopogirlfromtexas wrote: |
I'm bilingual too. My brother told me better act like I don't know any though. Well, it's elementary level anyway. Last time I was visiting Korea, 11 yrs ago, I got chewed out a lot. The whole having a Korean face with not being able to be perfect in Korean is the most humiliating thing lecture. Those people really get on my nerves. Why can't they just mind their own business and leave me alone. Even when I say I grew up in America, they're always saying that's no excuse. You are Korean, and you should be perfect in Korean. But how they are so mad about it, like me not being perfect in Korean ruined their day or something. Lot of other people told me to act like I don't know it at work, maybe they might try to take advantage of me and give me more work. I don't know what the deal is with the Korean. If I have to hide knowing it, or if it'll hurt me at work or what. |
If you pretend you can't speak Korean you can lsiten to them talk behind your back |
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lostandforgotten
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking English with Koreans is absolutely dreadful, isn't it? Unless it's a Korean who has fluency in English like a second language, I prefer to speak Korean with Koreans. English should be learned as a second language and not a foreign language because if it's learned as a foreign language, it will sound foreign and they will treat and make you feel like a foreigner. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I have few problems dealing with Koreans in Korean. On the other hand, I find it amusing that most Kyopos readily dismiss the concept of a 'foreigner' speaking Korean, in most cases as well as or better than they do! |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
I have few problems dealing with Koreans in Korean. On the other hand, I find it amusing that most Kyopos readily dismiss the concept of a 'foreigner' speaking Korean, in most cases as well as or better than they do! |
It's just my own personal experience, but I've only encountered the opposite. I've had gyopos laugh and say, "hey you speak Korean better than I do," which I thought was gracious on their part because my Korean is not all that great and I know it's got to be a bit of a sore point for them especially living in Korea. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Granted, in one-on-one situations. I'm talking more about larger, group meetings. |
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Axl Rose

Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: |
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procrastinatrix wrote: |
my English is definitely better than my Korean but i'm always amazed that so many people think that you can only be good at one language, or because i'm ethnically Korean, I can't possibly as good as white people at English. My distant uncle owns a hagwon and actually asked me "but your English isn't perfect like americans' right?" and i was just like "um...I AM american. it IS perfect. thanks."
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Interesting. The racial element works both ways then. I hope you're listening to this, Tomato? We get calculators shown to us, the use of fingers when saying a price because there's noooooo way in hell we can speak Korean or even consider trying, yet Asian Americans cannot possibly speak English as well as white Americans. 'All English-speakers are white and all white people speak English'..... |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: |
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I'm an American, what the hell is bilingual?
Oh, I got it now. I'm not bi, I'm 100% straight. But this one girl in college, I know she was bi.... |
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gyopogirlfromtexas

Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Location: Austin,Texas
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Fishead soup wrote: |
If you pretend you can't speak Korean you can lsiten to them talk behind your back |
Yea, I was thinking about just busting out in some surprise Korean smartass remarks. I flew Korean Air long ago, and a stewardess thought I didn't understand her. She was talking about me when I was right in the restroom with her, that I am weird because I spoke English the whole time in the flight, and she thinks that I'm a spy. Haha! That made me laugh. I didn't say anything to her though. |
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