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peppermint
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| I like Toronto a lot. Funky little neighborhoods and an escape hatch from Canada-woohoo! I find folks from Vancouver a lot more smug and annoying than Torontonians. Sorry VI. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| I like Toronto a lot. Funky little neighborhoods and an escape hatch from Canada-woohoo! I find folks from Vancouver a lot more smug and annoying than Torontonians. Sorry VI. |
Try Quebec. It was more fun. |
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gmat
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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The same reason Canadians often express dislike of the US ----> Jealousy. 
I do agree there is a certain somewhat unpleasant attitude in Toronto, but if you don't live there, who the *beep* cares |
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bonanzabucks
Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Location: NYC
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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I grew up in Alberta, but I never really had that "Western alienation" attitude. To be honest, I hated Edmonton to death and was so glad to move out of that dead city. Nonetheless, I never liked Toronto. To me, the attitude of the place was awful. Most people I met from there thought their shit didn't stink and that they were truly the center of the world, let alone Canada.
My sister went to university there and the first year, she loved it. She hated it after that and actually moved back to Edmonton. As much as she hated E-town, she hated Toronto even more! |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| bonanzabucks wrote: |
I grew up in Alberta, but I never really had that "Western alienation" attitude. To be honest, I hated Edmonton to death and was so glad to move out of that dead city. Nonetheless, I never liked Toronto. To me, the attitude of the place was awful. Most people I met from there thought their *beep* didn't stink and that they were truly the center of the world, let alone Canada.
My sister went to university there and the first year, she loved it. She hated it after that and actually moved back to Edmonton. As much as she hated E-town, she hated Toronto even more! |
Wellm
I'z a wonering herer afaihn. Don'tmateter none. Cuz tjheh gon agian. ha ah haredeha ha hah ha haQ. |
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bonanzabucks
Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Location: NYC
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
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I grew up in Alberta, but I never really had that "Western alienation" attitude. To be honest, I hated Edmonton to death and was so glad to move out of that dead city. Nonetheless, I never liked Toronto. To me, the attitude of the place was awful. Most people I met from there thought their *beep* didn't stink and that they were truly the center of the world, let alone Canada.
My sister went to university there and the first year, she loved it. She hated it after that and actually moved back to Edmonton. As much as she hated E-town, she hated Toronto even more! |
Wellm
I'z a wonering herer afaihn. Don'tmateter none. Cuz tjheh gon agian. ha ah haredeha ha hah ha haQ. |
Huh? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| It is also by far the most US-like city (not that this is bad in itself) so that plays a part. |
What is a distinquishing characteristic of a US city? Toronto is pretty liberal, with a strong socialist bent. That's American?
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| It also represents the bad aspects of federalism in a way (incorrectly of course). |
Toronto sure doesn't seem to get much in the way of federal or even provincial dollars. When was the last time a major world event was hosted in Toronto, or even the east? Hmmmm two olympics, expo, common wealth games... these all went to the west. Toronto is a kind of black hole for federal dollars. Give a dollar to Toronto and you instantly lose voters outside of Toronto. Toronto will always vote liberal. So the liberal party doesn't have to do much and the conservative party will only lose voters.
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| It tends to project a centre of the universe vibe that rubs many canadians the wrong way. |
That's the hardest part for me to understand. In what way? People who live in any big city generally don't find small city life appealing. It seems backwards. But I think you'd develop that attitude in TO, Vancouver, or Calgary.
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| In the end, being from TO, I like the place well enough but to be honest would not live there anymore. I find Toronto to be a cold city (the people) and a city going in the wrong direction.....but thats just my opinion. |
Cold, indeed. And unfriendly. After three years in Seattle and used to that American style open arms polite we'll talk to anyone about anything sort of way, I noticed how unfriendly and cold people were in TO. But again, that tends to be a product of living in a big city. |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Finally! Mindmetoo presents an avatar of a chick I'd actually want to nail...props |
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Greekfreak
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Different perspectives then mindmetoo.
I visit the place every year (still have family and friends there) and the attitude is alive and well. But, the rest of the country is still fueling on the 80s as you described as well as on current attitude. |
Okay so Toronto people have a certain attitude. What's that attitude? I lived there ten years. I've lived in Montreal (back when it was Canada's biggest city), Windsor, spent a lot of time in Vancouver, been to Halifax and Edmonton. Living in any big city certainly gives you a certain attitude. But is there one unique to Toronto that goes beyond someone who lives in Calgary or Vancouver? |
Their persistent self-belief that Toronto=NY, although it might be closer to the Bronx than anything. |
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Saram
Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| Like Toronto, don't like the Leafs. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| Their persistent self-belief that Toronto=NY, although it might be closer to the Bronx than anything. |
I never encountered anyone in Toronto who thought that. What is your basis for this opinion? |
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Greekfreak
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| Their persistent self-belief that Toronto=NY, although it might be closer to the Bronx than anything. |
I never encountered anyone in Toronto who thought that. What is your basis for this opinion? |
I lived with honest Torontonians, in the heart of Toronto, who sported Habs Jerseys at Leaf games while drinking Iron City Beer with their Indian take-out. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The winning traditon of the Toronto Maple Leafs-Canadians hate Tornto for that. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I can remember Toronto back in the days when there was still a relatively
big punk scene. Larry's Hideaway was the place to be. You could get a pitcher of beer in any bar on Queen street for six bucks.
The Yuppies then moved in and all the prices went up. |
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Greekfreak
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| The Diodes and The Viletones... Steve Leckie had/has a gent's clothing shop called "Fleur Du Mal", and he's still suitably weird looking. |
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