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hagwonnewbie



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: guy at the bank wrote in my passport..... Reply with quote

I went to transfer money home last week and I didn't have my pay stub with me. The guy at the bank wrote something in the back of my passport. What the hell is that all about?
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say it's so they can keep track of how much money you send out of the country. They don't do it all the time- I'm not sure why.

Not that my opinion will change anything, but I think it's stupid. To keep track of how much money you send out? Most anyone can just get a Korean friend to wire it out for you if you go over the limit and don't want to bother with the paperwork of proving your income.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The silly stamping and writing in it at the bank can be nipped in the bud by complaining/warning them not to. You are the customer. You have rights. Squawk and they will defer. Most Koreans don't say boo. Squawk and the teller will jump a foot in the air with a triple sommersault. Laughing

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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The minute I saw some measly bank clerk trying to write something in my PP would be the minute I grabbed it back from them and hauled myself to the next bank...they don't have any authority to do that...punks! Anyhow, I don't deal w/ K-tellers anymore to wire money as I have the ability to do so using my KEB ATM card 24/7... Very Happy
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really nothing to get stressed about.

I have several of those in the back of my passport - on one reads it, no one cares. Let them write all they want. No big deal.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did that to me the first time I sent money home. Every person at immigration, when I visit other countries, has asked what it is. After that first time I don't let people write in it. It doesn't seem to matter, as when I tell them not to, they say "okay" and stop.

The thing is, a few weeks ago I sent money home again. It was at a new bank, and, as I didn't have my contract or pay stub, the woman there was a little confused. Then, she looked at the mark in my passport---which was two years old---looked at the money I sent home at Christmas, and said that it added to to more than my limit.

Don't they keep track of these things electronically?
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zark wrote:
Really nothing to get stressed about.

I have several of those in the back of my passport - on one reads it, no one cares. Let them write all they want. No big deal.


No! That's f'ed up!

Nobody aside from immigration authorities should be writing anything in your passport, including you. It's insulting and inappropriate.

It basically sums up what Koreans think of us, with their lack of regard for official documents, most specifically including the gross mistreatment of many of our diplomas. *perhaps you did not experience this, but many of us have and it makes me mad as hell!
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one has ever written in my passport. 3 years....not ONCE....
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on...nobody should. I would be livid. I would make a scene.

Few things exemplify condescension (in Korea) quite like this example. They know it's not right. At the very least, they question it in the back of their minds.
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever wrote:
Zark wrote:
Really nothing to get stressed about.

I have several of those in the back of my passport - on one reads it, no one cares. Let them write all they want. No big deal.


No! That's f'ed up!

Nobody aside from immigration authorities should be writing anything in your passport, including you. It's insulting and inappropriate.

It basically sums up what Koreans think of us, with their lack of regard for official documents, most specifically including the gross mistreatment of many of our diplomas. *perhaps you did not experience this, but many of us have and it makes me mad as hell!


I think you'll find it is not uncommon to have things written in your passport - stapled to your passport - glued to the cover of your passport - and many other things.

Traveling is about staying mellow - and getting all worked up about common practices around the world - and letting yourself be insulted - is counter-productive.

ALWAYS - get an extra original of your degree (I have several of each), then you don't have to worry about that problem either. Nor to you have to worry about being held hostage by an employer that loses it or refuses to return it to you.

Uh, just my opinion - but I had a mellow pill for breakfast . . .
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I follow your logic. I don't dispute having backups.

But, there's no denying that mishandling and mangling diplomas or other official documents is utter and contemptible BS. Mine was folded three times and appears to have coffee AND kimchi stains on it. WTF is that? I wanted to throw down when I saw it. It's rubbish now. Isn't it obvious that it *tangibly is*, and not just represents, the most significant academic achievement I have yet to gain? In addition to that, it's the culmination and end all of a huge financial investment. Something I have a right to be proud of.

Lets say you make some money and buy a nice car. You take it to my carwash where you receive my services, which are a detailed car and clean exterior. Then I park it under a tree where birds shit on it and some scumbag comes by and keys it. I give it back to you with no apologies, because I 'fulfilled my roll'. It was just there; You can get it cleaned/fixed again. Of course, I don't treat my 'preferred customers' in that manner.

Or let's say you give me the title to the car for some sort of inspection and I eat my Greek salad on top of it. Whoops! It's infantile, rude, deliberately f'ed up and I want to knock somebody silly.

Quit apologizing for such idiotic behavior. Jesus, god. They know it's wrong! They just do it anyway because THEY DON'T CARE AND YOU AND I ARE FOREIGNERS. Therefore, their misbehavior is irrelevant.

It's the same thing with the passport. It's identification. They have no jurisdiction over your immigration status, the issuance or maintanance of the document, or any official notations. It's not meant to serve that purpose, period. Why are they notating your foreign-issued, soveriegn document with their silly notes?
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quit apologizing for such idiotic behavior


I'm not apologizing for anyone's behavior.

I am suggesting that once you have traveled a bit more you will realize that passports are subject to all sorts of stupid things. Get used to it. No big deal.

Also - once you have worked in more than one or two different foreign countries you will understand that it is better to have an extra "original" diploma/degree to give to your school/immigration/Ministry of Education. Things happen to them - they get lost, they get kimchee stains - it just happens.

Being outraged by the things that are common in life - I guess only leads to heart disease?

But I only speak from having worked in Botswana, Korea (twice), Thailand (twice), Saudi Arabia (wait til you see what they do to your passport there!), and Taiwan. There are others out there - maybe you? - with much more experience than I, perhaps they will reply?

Part of life is planning for the stupid people that step in your way as you travel to where you want to go. If you let these "little people" really get in your way - or make you upset - you'll never get where you want to go.

Learn how to maneuver around them - and pay them no mind.
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zark wrote:
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Quit apologizing for such idiotic behavior


I'm not apologizing for anyone's behavior.

I am suggesting that once you have traveled a bit more you will realize...


Dude, so what? I've lived and worked in Spain, Finland, Mexico, Costa Rica, Japan and now Korea. I've traveled extensively beyond that. It's still messed up.

You are apologizing, if not specifically for Koreans. Mistreatment of our most important documents for unsanctioned and inappropriate reasons is nonsense, no matter who does it. The examples you allude to, which I presume to be stapling, gluing, excessive stamping or whatever, are performed by professionals at immigration with every full right and reason to do so.

The clown in this guy's bank doesn't have that responsibility or right.

The clown in Korean immigration ought to treat our diplomas with respect.

Period.

Furthermore, how can you look yourself in the mirror having whored yourself out to a country like Saudi Arabia? The violation and subjugation of women there is despicable. I hope you spent the money well.

But...Botswana, though, must have been a remarkable country. They've made such admirable gains in the forty-odd years of independence thus far. I'm serious about that part.

'Chill out' does not solve every problem.


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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They stamped my passport once when I exchanged Korean money into American money for my Lunar New Year vacation. They stamped and wrote the amount I received in US dollars. That was a couple of years back and I didn't know she was going to do it. Had I known I would have grabbed it and said, "There are a thousand other banks I can go to exchange Korean money into America that WON"T do that."

I wrote a couple of the banking inconsistencies (even between the same banks) in the Hubcap of Asia thread. Writing in the visa sections of passports is one more to add to that.

What's so bad about it? Aside from the contradictions (some banks do it but others don't, so you have banks inconsistently adhering or not to their own laws), I don't want a detailed financial transcript in the back of my passport when I decide to go back home.
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2 back pages of my passport are completely filled with stamps from the bank.
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