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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: An ancient Korean queen came from India |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heo_Hwang-ok
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Heo Hwang-ok was a princess who travelled from the ancient kingdom of Ayodhya* to Korea. Information about her comes almost entirely from a few short passages in the Samguk Yusa, an 11th-century Korean chronicle. According to that chronicle, she arrived on a boat and married King Suro of Gaya in the year 48 CE. She was the first queen of Geumgwan Gaya, and is considered an ancestor by several Korean lineages.
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* Ayodhya (Hindi: अयोध्या, IAST Ayodhyā) is an ancient city of India, the old capital of Awadh, in the Faizabad district of Uttar Pradesh. During the time of Gautama Buddha the city was called Ayojjhā (Pali). |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds a bit similar to the Khmer lineage story. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| cool. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, amazing the things we never learn.
Wonder how much OTHER history runs contrary to the official line?
Likely just a few little misplaced antecdotes scattered here & there. |
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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm... an Indian princess marrying a Korean man not a Korean princess marrying a foreign man?
Is this real history or just the front page of the Korea times? |
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Yesterday

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yes - I knew (heard about it a few years ago) - about the Indian princess who came to Korea and married the Korean King....
at that period of time - it was the "in thing to do" for koreans royals and nobility to import Indian nobility and marry them....
(They were considered very artistic and pretty)....
apparently - thats why many korean people now - have the "dark skin - and dark brown hair/eye" - not the common chinese yellow skin/black hair....
it is often those korean people with the dark skin that are discriminated against here in korea by other koreans - but are often found beautiful/handsome by foreigners........
ITS also further proof of how MIXED-UP - "Korean pure blood is"...
hence why most koreans try hard to forget about their Mongo, Chinese, Japanese and India ancestors........
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I bet they used to stare at her a LOT. |
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Wondering
Joined: 23 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| I bet they used to stare at her a LOT. |
I'll bet she was never permitted outside the palace and was probably forced to stay in "women's" quarters pretty much her whole life.
The higher the class, the less freedom. |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| SuperFly wrote: |
| I bet they used to stare at her a LOT. |
It's not polite to stare at the queen. I don't think the king would have liked that. |
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manlyboy

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| My wife's family claim descendency from Gaya. She just told me that King Suro had ten sons and that he gave two of them the Indian wife's family name so it could live on. |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Your wife must be of the Gimhae Kim clan.
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Two of the couple's ten sons chose the mother's name. The Heo clans trace their origins to them, and regard Heo as the founder of their lines. The Gimhae Kims trace their origin to the other eight sons.
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annabel

Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Cool, never knew that.
Maybe that's why my skin colour looks so much like many Koreans'- I'm half Indian.
Was thinking when I first arrived in Korea that I might have to deal with racism more than the average english foreign teacher after seeing it rampant in my classes, since I'm a bit darker than most foreigners. But I was told by my students "no teacher, ok... same-same". I've noticed a few whiter than me, and a few darker. Guess I must blend in quite a bit; I've even been mistaken for being a Korean before, when someone couldn't see my face.
What a pity. Seems like the culture was more open to different races in ancient days than it is now... even if she was confined to the women's quarters, just the fact that she was married to a king and considered beautiful seems more open minded than the way things are now... |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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i totally dig the Buddhist connexion.
Anyone ever been to MILUKSA? |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: korreia
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Well, before we get all warm and fuzzy and think about how open Korea was to foreign influence, remember that it was the ancient Koreans who civilized all of Asia:
http://www.asia-watch.com/archives/114
So, our Indian princess was just, you know, coming home. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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You know, I know a girl from Jeolla and I've also been curious why her appearance was darker, with a brownish hair and thicker eyebrows. Now maybe I know..  |
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