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ma cherie



Joined: 13 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Cambodia Reply with quote

A few things:

You can get a visa to Cambodia online with a great e-service that they offer. The URL is: http://evisa.mfaic.gov.kh/

You simply fill out the application form, pay $25 via credit card and send them a scanned passport photo and voila, you have it within a day or two (or even faster). However, keep in mind that it's only single entry, so if you're entering the country twice, like I did, you need another visa. Still, the procedure is easy, and it's fast.

Also, correction about the Angkor Temples pass; a 3-day pass is $40, not $50 like someone had stated. I also recommend taking the Mekong Express tour bus for $10; it's only six hours, and mine ended up arriving in the city a bit early.

For accommodations, check out the Buoy Savy Guesthouse in Siem Reap (www.buoysavyguesthouse.com). Nice people; fan rooms were only $6/night. I hired the tuk tuk driver there to take me to the temples; service was wonderful, respectful and polite.

Also while in Siem Reap, go to the Blue Pumpkin. Don't ask; just do it.

Phnom Penh -- not as nice as Siem Reap but worth a visit. You gotta see the Killing Fields and pay respects, as well as Tuol Sleng Museum. But don't expect a happy time there.
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ma cherie



Joined: 13 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: spelling mistake on guest house in siem reap Reply with quote

It's Bou Savy Guesthouse (www.bousavyguesthouse.com).
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articulate_ink



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I flew from Phnom Penh to Siem Riep last year on Siem Reap Airways, which is a subsidiary of Bangkok Airways. The plane was actually painted with a Bangkok Airways livery. This is an excellent carrier. I had flown them from Bangkok to PP as well. Not the cheapest option on any route, but the best. I think the intra-Cambodia flight was US$40 or $50. I'm prone to motion sickness, so the idea of taking the bus or the ferry wasn't something I considered for more than, oh, like 15 seconds.

I agree about the Blue Pumpkin in Siem Reap. It's a great place to chill out after you've been stomping around in the temples all day.

Some of PP's main attractions are about bearing witness to the atrocities that happened under the Khmer Rouge. They're worth seeing, but be good to yourself while you're there. Give yourself time to reflect and recover afterward.

Good food at the Foreign Correspondents Club in PP, btw.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Not sure how the weather/water levels will be, but if you can, take the ferry. Just don't spend the whole time on the top deck.



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deadman



Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tip for the temples:

A lot of people do Angkor Wat at dawn - a really nice time of day, and worth doing, but gets a bit crowded. I find crowds ruin the temples' atmosphere easily. To me it's all about quiet overgrown ruins in the jungle.

Immediately after sunrise, take your transport from Angkor Wat to another temple, where you should have a good hour or two to yourself in the cool of the early morning - magic.

I recommend Ta Prom for this - it has some nice trees and vines growing over the crumbling walls. I did it, and that, for me, was the experience that I was looking for there. The only thing missing was some sort of natural hallucinogen to really make it special!

Guesthouse recommendation (if that's allowed) - Earthwalkers

http://www.earthwalkers.no/

Really cool. I stay there every time I pass through.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadman wrote:
Tip for the temples:

A lot of people do Angkor Wat at dawn - a really nice time of day, and worth doing, but gets a bit crowded. I find crowds ruin the temples' atmosphere easily. To me it's all about quiet overgrown ruins in the jungle.

Immediately after sunrise, take your transport from Angkor Wat to another temple, where you should have a good hour or two to yourself in the cool of the early morning - magic.

I recommend Ta Prom for this - it has some nice trees and vines growing over the crumbling walls. I did it, and that, for me, was the experience that I was looking for there. The only thing missing was some sort of natural hallucinogen to really make it special!

Guesthouse recommendation (if that's allowed) - Earthwalkers

http://www.earthwalkers.no/

Really cool. I stay there every time I pass through.


Great advice. And get your driver to take you up to the River of 1000 Lingas. It is a mountain stream whose rock bottom is ornately carved. It is a bit of a thrash getting there, but you will most likely be alone.
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Leavingkorea



Joined: 27 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siem Reap air is alright. Fly baby!!! Why lose a whole day of your trip on buses or crappy boats?

As for time there. If I did 6-7 days I'd not buy the 3 day pass. I'd buy 1 day passes each day and spend 3-4 total days seeing the temples. It's good to get a little break between them. You appreciate them more and don't get templed out. With other time make sure you visit the landmine museum and the war museum is alright too. Their culture world (forget the name but it's a brand new park) is worth a walk through too one day. Take a trip to the lake to see the village on the water and walk through town a bit and there you go all 7 days are gone.

Just have your hotel arrange a tuktuk or taxi for you for your trip. I preferred the tuktuk honestly. Once he meets you at the airport work out a deal with him and let him drive you around each day. If you don't like him, let him drive to your hotel, pay him say thanks and try again.

BTW I'd never stay at Earthwalkers. Too far from the main town. Stay down near the old market. You can walk around at night and eat well, have a drink, hang by other temples, walk along the river or whatever.
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billyg



Joined: 16 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sianoukville was definitely worth skipping... actually just left it a few days ago... in phnom penh right now... been going into the shanties everyday and taking pictures, hanging out... one of the best experiences i've ever had in my life. been posting photos if anyone wants to have a look.

billygomez.blogspot.com
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, is there a good place to relax or "chill out" in Cambodia? A Vang Vieng of Cambodia? I have my itinerary planned out and I have a few days left to spend somewhere relaxing and low-key (if possible) before retuning to the rigeurs of Korea Smile .
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deadman



Joined: 27 May 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
So, is there a good place to relax or "chill out" in Cambodia? A Vang Vieng of Cambodia? I have my itinerary planned out and I have a few days left to spend somewhere relaxing and low-key (if possible) before retuning to the rigeurs of Korea Smile .


I've never been to Vang Vieng, so I don't know exactly what you mean, but I'll assume you require a hammock to chill out in.

The only place you'll find a hammock in Phnom Penh is "the Lakeside" - the backpacker area [modest by Khao San Road (Bangkok) standards, but in a similar vein] by Boueng Kak (sp?) lake. Some guest houses have decking over the water with hammocks and couches, and theres a social element to it too I guess, with the other backpackers "chilling out".

Sihanoukville - maybe a deckchair on the beach on the northern end of Ocheteal beach, unofficially called Serendipity beach. In general, though, the beaches are pretty ordinary.

There are also some isolated guesthouses on islands offshore, accessible by boat from S'ville - never been, but that could be chilling out of a more isolated kind.

Or, skip s'ville go further along the coast to the east to Kampot and Kep. I want to go there next trip (I'll be there soon). They are very sleepy little towns with a few guesthouses and not much to do after dark, I hear, but don't quote me on that. Some interesting abandoned buildings from pre khmer rouge times too (Bokor?)

Checkout www.khmer440.com
www.talesofasia.com
or the lonely planet thorn tree if you haven't already.
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadman wrote:
cwemory wrote:
So, is there a good place to relax or "chill out" in Cambodia? A Vang Vieng of Cambodia? I have my itinerary planned out and I have a few days left to spend somewhere relaxing and low-key (if possible) before retuning to the rigeurs of Korea Smile .


I've never been to Vang Vieng, so I don't know exactly what you mean, but I'll assume you require a hammock to chill out in.

The only place you'll find a hammock in Phnom Penh is "the Lakeside" - the backpacker area [modest by Khao San Road (Bangkok) standards, but in a similar vein] by Boueng Kak (sp?) lake. Some guest houses have decking over the water with hammocks and couches, and theres a social element to it too I guess, with the other backpackers "chilling out".

Sihanoukville - maybe a deckchair on the beach on the northern end of Ocheteal beach, unofficially called Serendipity beach. In general, though, the beaches are pretty ordinary.

There are also some isolated guesthouses on islands offshore, accessible by boat from S'ville - never been, but that could be chilling out of a more isolated kind.

Or, skip s'ville go further along the coast to the east to Kampot and Kep. I want to go there next trip (I'll be there soon). They are very sleepy little towns with a few guesthouses and not much to do after dark, I hear, but don't quote me on that. Some interesting abandoned buildings from pre khmer rouge times too (Bokor?)

Checkout www.khmer440.com
www.talesofasia.com
or the lonely planet thorn tree if you haven't already.


Excellent advice. Thanks.
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