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Vegan couple sentenced to life over baby's death
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
In the case of b) breastfeeding does not harm animals. For example, I, Big_Bird, am myself an animal, and I am currently, as I type this in fact, breastfeeding my son. It has not harmed me in anyway, and thus it meets the requirements of rationale b).

Well, of course, it begs the question of whether dairy products such as milk, eggs, and cheese actully DO harm the agricultural livestock they are procured from, especially after considering that these animals actually feel physical pain if they are not allowed to discharge the lactates that have fed a large buk of humanity for literally thousands of years ...

As for a) a vegan diet - combined with denying the child benefits of a doctor's advice - clearly did not prove healthy in this case ...

As for b) it's really all about making yourSELF feel good and holy, isn't it? I mean, let's face it, really ...

Kudos to Bramble for this time limiting her insults to the word "lazy" - I've long supposed that a lot of the problems in the world stem from people with too damn much energy, so you've paid me a compliment without realizing it ...

I'm coll with you - your job now to try to get cool with me. Ain't goin' away just cuz you'd prefer it, haha ...

Cool
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BB's answer was nice, clear and concise ... a simple answer for a simple person. If you want to learn more, read the links. Seriously, Bobster, you're showing your ignorance with every post you make. Aren't you embarrassed at all?
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
you're showing your ignorance with every post you make. Aren't you embarrassed at all?

Personal insults included with just about every post you make these days. Sit down for a moment and ask where that's coming from. You ARE getting better, though. You started with "moron" and "idiot," escalated to "as*hole" then calmed down enough to the point of "lazy" and "ignorance."

I was going to suggest that this sign of progress might mean maybe the meds were starting to kick in, but that would be unkind. Please think hard for a minute about how much energy you expend insulting me and the people I love, others on the forums as well, how often recently I have asked you to desist, and the reasons why you keep at it.

It's true that I bear you no ill will. The Bobster really does love peace. Play nice, or don't play.
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
Bramble wrote:
you're showing your ignorance with every post you make. Aren't you embarrassed at all?

Personal insults included with just about every post you make these days. Sit down for a moment and ask where that's coming from. You ARE getting better, though. You started with "moron" and "idiot," escalated to "as*hole" then calmed down enough to the point of "lazy" and "ignorance."

I was going to suggest that this sign of progress might mean maybe the meds were starting to kick in, but that would be unkind. Please think hard for a minute about how much energy you expend insulting me and the people I love, others on the forums as well, how often recently I have asked you to desist, and the reasons why you keep at it.

It's true that I bear you no ill will. The Bobster really does love peace. Play nice, or don't play.


I can't believe you're bored enough to keep on posting when you have nothing to say. Did you read the articles yet? Did you learn anything?
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, of course, it begs the question of whether dairy products such as milk, eggs, and cheese actully DO harm the agricultural livestock they are procured from, especially after considering that these animals actually feel physical pain if they are not allowed to discharge the lactates that have fed a large buk of humanity for literally thousands of years ...

Perhaps it we stabled thousands upon thousands of lactating vietnamese women from age 13-80 hooked them up to a milking machine whilst being fed growth hormones, powerful anti-biotics, and processed foods, perhaps THEN you could argue that the situation were the same.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
I can't believe you're bored enough to keep on posting when you have nothing to say.

I'm sorry, I nodded off for a bit - that sometimes happens when people neglect to insult me for a half an hour or so ...

Surprised
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khyber



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=92423
Come on you two...chill the eff out.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were most certainly negligent. They should have fed the child soy-based baby formula instead. Soy milk cannot fulfill for the dietary needs of a newborn. It simply doesn't have enough of the protein, vitamins and minerals that the child needs (it's kind of like feeding skim milk to a baby. Sure, skim milk is good for you, but it isn't enough to keep you alive).
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