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Nemesis
Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Location: Shanghai
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You want to change an information-saturated world by presenting...
... more information.
Maaan, that's stupid and futile and it's not gonna work. Really and truly, if that's the best plan of action that alien visitors can come up with, then I suggest they come down here and run a hagwon.
With such strategical brilliance, they'll fit right in.  |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Communing With Extraterrestrials |
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| Nemesis wrote: |
I'll bite. I like to keep an open mind.
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I did not know what that mission was until I was 22, when they finally told me it would be my task to establish the earth branch of The Fellowship of Yeshua.
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The goal of Yeshua is to establish regional meetings of the Fellowship of Yeshua with local guides throughout the major cities on earth. Just this year (2007), Yeshua encouraged me to begin publishing books based on the spiritual philosophy he has imparted to me.
That's my experience in a nutshell up to this point.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
Sooo... these "enlightened" aliens are " interested" in humans and want to help us "wake up" into a higher level of "reality"? Fair enough. It's a good goal.
Unfortunately, I suggest that your buddies are boobs. They have no understanding of their target audience. Are they unaware that we live in a media-saturated world where information comes on-demand?
There are billions of voices and opinions out there now, all accessible in seconds. This is a rather new development on Earth, and it's something that makes our current society different from all others.
With so many options to choose from, attention spans have spiralled. People have choice now, and have become increasingly difficult to captivate.
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Given this contextual background, your alien "plan" sounds rather limp, and poorly thought out.
If these aliens were really what you claim them to be, I reckon they'd have a much more elaborate plan than to send forth an English teacher with global ambitions.
Seriously, is that their grand plan? |
Thanks for keeping an open mind, and I sometimes share your frustration. I wish Yeshua and Gabriel, and their fellow guides, would just take control of the airwaves or land on the White House lawn (heck, any lawn would do~) It would make my job a lot easier.
To tell you the truth, I do not think it would make much difference what background the messenger has - and I am not the only messenger. There are physicists and doctors in other areas who espouse contact with spiritually advanced ETs. Those who want to listen will. Those who do not will always find a reason not to. It's human nature to stick with a paradigm until one is shocked out of it. Believe me, I would still be stuck in mine had I not gone through the experiences I've gone through.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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Nemesis
Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'll grant you this: your replies to pretty much all posts in this thread have been well thought out and presented clearly.
I have no doubt in your sincerity. Heck, I don't really have reason to disbelieve the alien stuff either.
I am, though, quite disappointed in the "alien revelation" schtick -- it's been the same for decades: aliens "reveal" themselves to the world through individuals who have nothing to present other than their word.
$hit or get off the pot, I say. |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: re: |
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| Nemesis wrote: |
Well, I'll grant you this: your replies to pretty much all posts in this thread have been well thought out and presented clearly.
I have no doubt in your sincerity. Heck, I don't really have reason to disbelieve the alien stuff either.
I am, though, quite disappointed in the "alien revelation" schtick -- it's been the same for decades: aliens "reveal" themselves to the world through individuals who have nothing to present other than their word.
$hit or get off the pot, I say. |
I think the way our ET guides communicate with us is designed to interfer as little as possible. They wish to assist us in spiritual development, but they do not wish to force us into said development. As I said before, I know it can be frustrating, but it is ultimately their choice how to communicate with us. They are "*hitting" so to speak, just in their own way~
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: re: |
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For anyone interested, the discussion on The Fellowship of Yeshua is pretty in depth at Above Top Secret. There are a couple readers there who ask questions as they read, and I answer.
See: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289971/pg1
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: re: |
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Dear Posters,
I know there has been a push for me to present some kind of evidence of my claims. This has not bothered me, but I have been asking for a physical appearance during my meditations each morning. This morning, on the drive to work, I witnessed the following object in a rice field adjacent to my car. I do not usually travel with a camera, so I took the picture on my cellphone.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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newteacher
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: Re: re: |
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| seoulunitarian wrote: |
Dear Posters,
I know there has been a push for me to present some kind of evidence of my claims. This has not bothered me, but I have been asking for a physical appearance during my meditations each morning. This morning, on the drive to work, I witnessed the following object in a rice field adjacent to my car. I do not usually travel with a camera, so I took the picture on my cellphone.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
Wow, the aliens can use photoshop. They really are here to offer us salvation!! |
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pharflung
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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This is interesting, but I'm afraid not quite interesting enough to read all 21 pages of posts. You seem to have detailed memories of your early encounters. I would be interested in hearing more details, if you don't mind.
What were the furnishings like where you met your two friends? Were you standing or sitting? If the latter, what was the seat like?
Was the space entirely enclosed, or were there windows? If the latter, what did you see outside?
Did you have anything to eat or drink? Did they?
Do you remember what their hands were like?
Was there any music playing in the background?
Did they cut off any of your hair? |
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beast
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Many scientists believe that alien lifeforms may be beyond our realm of detection even when standing directly in front of us. The reason being, we only are aware through sight, sound, taste, touch, and smell.
Alien lifeform could exist in a form in which we are unable to sense. It is not hard to believe that. We know matter is made up of molecules, yet how many of us have ever seen a molecule. We take it as fact however. We have a hard time even exploring the depths of the Mariana Trench in the Pacific Ocean, let alone millions or trillions of light years away. We don't even know what exists on the bottom of the oceans. Yet scientists think there are thousands of creatures yet to be discovered down there. Thousands of creatures only 30,000 feet away from us, yet nothing for hundreds of trillions of light years away from us?
The odds are pretty good there is something out there. |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hello, we're not distinct. There's something out there. Do they give a ____ about us? Who knows. Distances are just to extreme.
...by the way, this thread is dead as hell... |
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newton kabiddles
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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"Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua" |
What a piss! I love this guy! |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: Re: re: |
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| seoulunitarian wrote: |
Dear Posters,
I know there has been a push for me to present some kind of evidence of my claims. This has not bothered me, but I have been asking for a physical appearance during my meditations each morning. This morning, on the drive to work, I witnessed the following object in a rice field adjacent to my car. I do not usually travel with a camera, so I took the picture on my cellphone.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
Wow, the aliens can use photoshop. They really are here to offer us salvation!! |
This is, of course, why I do not care much about the reactions to the photo I took. Any UFO photo can be blamed on photoshop. If you saw me try to use photoshop, however, I think your tune would change^^
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| pharflung wrote: |
This is interesting, but I'm afraid not quite interesting enough to read all 21 pages of posts. You seem to have detailed memories of your early encounters. I would be interested in hearing more details, if you don't mind.
What were the furnishings like where you met your two friends? Were you standing or sitting? If the latter, what was the seat like?
Was the space entirely enclosed, or were there windows? If the latter, what did you see outside?
Did you have anything to eat or drink? Did they?
Do you remember what their hands were like?
Was there any music playing in the background?
Did they cut off any of your hair? |
When I was four and seven, I was taken aboard their craft. The "furnishing" was quite bright, and I saw absolutely no operating stations for the craft. There were also no seats. Just a blaringly white room.
I saw no windows from the inside, but there were what appeared to be "openings" from the outside I was being lifted into the craft.
Nothing to eat or drink.
Gabriel's hands were similar to ours, with five finders. Yeshua's arms were a bit longer, with only three fingers.
No music, and I was not touched at all.
Blessings,
Dr. Paul Daniel Payne
The Fellowship of Yeshua |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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I thought you said you haven't seen them since you were 7.
Now you say you saw them when you were 11? |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Are you actually making money at this? Because I had an invisible friend when I was a kid too....
Any of you guys ever thought about this seriously..how easy would it be to make alot of money off credulous folks? And obviously not go to jail for a long time whilst your at it? |
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