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GEPIK Ups The Ante----be careful gentlemen
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: GEPIK Ups The Ante----be careful gentlemen Reply with quote

There's been a few posts about GEPIK asking people to work outside their contracted hours. Today I re-signed a new contract with my school. They've been pretty good to me so I'm not too worried over this new clause (it wasn't there last time I checked their website). Anyway here it is.


Article 7 #3

"Employee may be asked to teach extra hours within and/or out of the regular working hours."

Just a heads up. Laughing
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genezorm



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: GEPIK Ups The Ante----be careful gentlemen Reply with quote

The_Conservative wrote:

"Employee may be asked to teach extra hours within and/or out of the regular working hours."


that's cool if i MAY be ASKED to teach extra hours
i MAY say thanks for asking, but go screw yourself
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it is for extra pay though. It's in the 2007 contract.
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
I believe it is for extra pay though. It's in the 2007 contract.


For 20k-30k/hour, still no thank you.
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else notice that many public schools even in rural areas are starting English after school programs? This is really quite disturbing to say the least. The reason it's bad is because it seems like a trend where more will be expected of each native teacher. Now I've got nothing against hard work but these programs are usually pressured onto us because there aren't enough hours to justify hiring a new teacher to fly over. It'll be hard on the students as well if they don't have the energy or time to devout to such programs Sad

Sody
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GEPIK's contract is the worst. There should be a concerted effort to get people NOT to do GEPIK.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually we went through this before on another thread. SMOE is the worst as they make you do overnight camps and work weekends. GEPIK limits the amount of overtime to no more then SIX hours per week.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I saw that clause too...I think GEPIK's been getting complaints from teachers who didn't want to work outside 9-5. Because I saw their website with the contract on it a couple of weeks ago..and that clause was not in there...oh well like everything else in Korea there's ways and means around it. Twisted Evil
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kimchi story



Joined: 23 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just adding to the discourse here, not intentionally flaming.

I don't see how the ante's being upped. Was there ever a clause that said extra classes would be limited to regular teaching hours? Not in my 2006 contract. It's extra work for extra pay. It doesn't pay as well as privates, but you don't have to commute and you're not taking any risks. Having done the hagwon/privates thing in the past I appreciate these luxuries.

The new 7.3 appears to be more transparent than the old one which simply stated "Employees may be asked to teach some extra classes" as well as "Extra classes shall not exeed 6 hours a week without Employee's consent". If the latter clause has been written out, well, that's not good.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"and/or out of working hours" could be enough to justify work on the weekends.

I can see it now:

School: You have to do this weekend camp.
NT: No, I don't work weekends. Its in the contract.
School: (points to Article 7 #3) "Employee may be asked to teach extra hours within and/or out of the regular working hours."

The contract doesn't specifically say "During the week" or "on weekdays."

Its funny how throughout the contract, it uses the words "may be asked" like you have the option to say no.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sody wrote:
Anyone else notice that many public schools even in rural areas are starting English after school programs? This is really quite disturbing to say the least. The reason it's bad is because it seems like a trend where more will be expected of each native teacher. Now I've got nothing against hard work but these programs are usually pressured onto us because there aren't enough hours to justify hiring a new teacher to fly over. It'll be hard on the students as well if they don't have the energy or time to devout to such programs Sad

Sody


I've almost completed a year working for two rural schools. My contract is not the same as Epik/Gepik. The max classes are 25. I did half of my required classes in the afternoon, so yeah 'afterschool' class but everything was up to me. It was of course more work but I have enjoyed my year. I want to re-sign but a certain outside business is running the summer camps (originally told we must overnighters) and they will be drafting the new contract. Can anyone imagine how the contract will change???? Forced overnight camps, forced overtime etc etc. I'm expecting the worst but hoping for something reasonable.
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