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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: GEPIK Ups The Ante----be careful gentlemen |
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There's been a few posts about GEPIK asking people to work outside their contracted hours. Today I re-signed a new contract with my school. They've been pretty good to me so I'm not too worried over this new clause (it wasn't there last time I checked their website). Anyway here it is.
Article 7 #3
"Employee may be asked to teach extra hours within and/or out of the regular working hours."
Just a heads up.  |
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genezorm

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Mokpo
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK Ups The Ante----be careful gentlemen |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
"Employee may be asked to teach extra hours within and/or out of the regular working hours." |
that's cool if i MAY be ASKED to teach extra hours
i MAY say thanks for asking, but go screw yourself |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe it is for extra pay though. It's in the 2007 contract. |
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boyne11

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| mrsquirrel wrote: |
| I believe it is for extra pay though. It's in the 2007 contract. |
For 20k-30k/hour, still no thank you. |
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Sody
Joined: 14 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Anyone else notice that many public schools even in rural areas are starting English after school programs? This is really quite disturbing to say the least. The reason it's bad is because it seems like a trend where more will be expected of each native teacher. Now I've got nothing against hard work but these programs are usually pressured onto us because there aren't enough hours to justify hiring a new teacher to fly over. It'll be hard on the students as well if they don't have the energy or time to devout to such programs
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| GEPIK's contract is the worst. There should be a concerted effort to get people NOT to do GEPIK. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| Actually we went through this before on another thread. SMOE is the worst as they make you do overnight camps and work weekends. GEPIK limits the amount of overtime to no more then SIX hours per week. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I saw that clause too...I think GEPIK's been getting complaints from teachers who didn't want to work outside 9-5. Because I saw their website with the contract on it a couple of weeks ago..and that clause was not in there...oh well like everything else in Korea there's ways and means around it.  |
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kimchi story

Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Just adding to the discourse here, not intentionally flaming.
I don't see how the ante's being upped. Was there ever a clause that said extra classes would be limited to regular teaching hours? Not in my 2006 contract. It's extra work for extra pay. It doesn't pay as well as privates, but you don't have to commute and you're not taking any risks. Having done the hagwon/privates thing in the past I appreciate these luxuries.
The new 7.3 appears to be more transparent than the old one which simply stated "Employees may be asked to teach some extra classes" as well as "Extra classes shall not exeed 6 hours a week without Employee's consent". If the latter clause has been written out, well, that's not good. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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"and/or out of working hours" could be enough to justify work on the weekends.
I can see it now:
School: You have to do this weekend camp.
NT: No, I don't work weekends. Its in the contract.
School: (points to Article 7 #3) "Employee may be asked to teach extra hours within and/or out of the regular working hours."
The contract doesn't specifically say "During the week" or "on weekdays."
Its funny how throughout the contract, it uses the words "may be asked" like you have the option to say no. |
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Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| Sody wrote: |
Anyone else notice that many public schools even in rural areas are starting English after school programs? This is really quite disturbing to say the least. The reason it's bad is because it seems like a trend where more will be expected of each native teacher. Now I've got nothing against hard work but these programs are usually pressured onto us because there aren't enough hours to justify hiring a new teacher to fly over. It'll be hard on the students as well if they don't have the energy or time to devout to such programs
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I've almost completed a year working for two rural schools. My contract is not the same as Epik/Gepik. The max classes are 25. I did half of my required classes in the afternoon, so yeah 'afterschool' class but everything was up to me. It was of course more work but I have enjoyed my year. I want to re-sign but a certain outside business is running the summer camps (originally told we must overnighters) and they will be drafting the new contract. Can anyone imagine how the contract will change???? Forced overnight camps, forced overtime etc etc. I'm expecting the worst but hoping for something reasonable. |
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