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Study: Americans Don't Understand Others
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
And Allyallen...

I'm getting major sidescroll on this thread, I think from your url. Maybe give tinyurl a try?

www.tinyurl.com


Or do the following.

PASTE URL

Then add ]


Then add text

Then highlight all and click URL

Then change [url] to [url=

LIKE THIS:

(I've shortened the url in your example to avoid sidescroll)

ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc

ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc]

ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc]Americans Don't Understand Others

[url]ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc]Americans Don't Understand Others[/url]

[url= ttp://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc ]Americans Don't Understand Others[/url]

And with your full URL - it should look like this:

Americans Don't Understand Others


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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

desultude wrote:

Facial expressions and body language vary cross-culturally, and this can make for some amusing misunderstandings.


ain't that the truth. I learned that in Bangladesh and India. Basically I had to be blunt and just straight out tell a person if I didn't like something. Even then that didn't work sometimes.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
...Next time, I'll be sure to put up an article saying "AMERICA: #1 at EVERYTHING. EVERYONE IS HAPPY AND UNDERSTANDS EACH OTHER 100%!" OK Rolling Eyes


Save your eyerolls. And this has nothing at all to do with my perspective or post on this thread.

Oh yeah: thanks for confirming you are a Satan-lover, lover.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Alyallen wrote:
...Next time, I'll be sure to put up an article saying "AMERICA: #1 at EVERYTHING. EVERYONE IS HAPPY AND UNDERSTANDS EACH OTHER 100%!" OK Rolling Eyes


Save your eyerolls. And this has nothing at all to do with my perspective or post on this thread.

Oh yeah: thanks for confirming you are a Satan-lover, lover.


I seriously doubt you have perspective. You are pretty much a one trick pony. When in doubt or when unable to read properly, accuse someone of something so you seem to contribute. It's tired....You want to contribute? Then please back up your nonsense. Please show me how I
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...seems trapped in a muckraking, U.S.-centric frame-of-mind. Seems to find fault exclusively with America -- almost as if we invented the "failure-to-understand-Others" problem. This is hardly the case at all. I also remind OP that ours, unlike many others worldwide, is a multicultural environment.


I'm waiting....

P.S. Go, Satan! Twisted Evil
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Well the headline is misleading, deliberately so to be attention-grabbing. And it's Americo-centric because it ignores other Westerners (unless other Western nations truly are different in this respect?).

Perhaps Gopher, you are a case in point: unable to imagine the perspective of the OP at the time she made the post, too wrapped up in your own preoccupation with anti-Americanism. Rather like the Muslims who took the cartoons of Mohammed as proof of western hatred and assumed complicity between press and government.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
^Well the headline is misleading, deliberately so to be attention-grabbing. And it's Americo-centric because it ignores other Westerners (unless other Western nations truly are different in this respect?).

Perhaps Gopher, you are a case in point: unable to imagine the perspective of the OP at the time she made the post, too wrapped up in your own preoccupation with anti-Americanism. Rather like the Muslims who took the cartoons of Mohammed as proof of western hatred and assumed complicity between press and government.


Thank you, Privateer...People need to learn to read.

Go to the link and tell me what the name of the article is. Then...compare it to what I named this thread. I'll wait for my apology...


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wannago



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
On the other hand wrote:
And Allyallen...

I'm getting major sidescroll on this thread, I think from your url. Maybe give tinyurl a try?

www.tinyurl.com


Or do the following.

PASTE URL

Then add ]


Then add text

Then highlight all and click URL

Then change [url] to [url=

LIKE THIS:

(I've shortened the url in your example to avoid sidescroll)

ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc

ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc]

ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc]Americans Don't Understand Others

[url]ttp//news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc]Americans Don't Understand Others[/url]

[url= ttp://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070718/etc ]Americans Don't Understand Others[/url]

And with your full URL - it should look like this:

Americans Don't Understand Others


I think its the British that must be thick. I'll say this loudly:

BIG BIRD! YOUR AVATAR IS TOO WIDE! THAT IS WHAT CAUSES THE SIDESCROLL. PLEASE REDUCE YOUR ANKLE SIZE SO THAT THE ENTIRE PAGE OF THE THREAD FITS ON THE SCREEN. WHEN YOU POST, YOUR AVATAR CAUSES THE PAGE TO BE TOO WIDE. Get it?
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yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That little turtle looks like he is trying to do something un-american to that big turtle. I could be wrong though, I have never been able to read turtles very well.
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jkelly80



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

America: Love It or Leave It. Somebody get me a Budweiser.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yawarakaijin wrote:
That little turtle looks like he is trying to do something un-american to that big turtle. I could be wrong though, I have never been able to read turtles very well.


Laughing
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When the director asked 20 American participants (none of Asian descent) to move a block, most were confused as to which block to move and did not take into account the director's perspective. Even though they could have deduced that, from the director's seat, only one block was on the table.


Does Chinese have definite articles? Was the test conducted in Chinese for the Chinese participants and English for the American participants? Or was it conducted entirely in English? If so, were the Chinese participants fluent in English... enough perhaps to be confused by a director saying "a block" as opposed to "the block" and therefore ask "Which one, sir?"? Were the participants informed beforehand that the director knew of only one block? If so then knowing which block to move would not be difficult to deduce. I am inclined to believe they were not informed of this and were, therefore, left to their own wits to decide what the director knew or did not know. They could have deduced that the director knew of another block even though he may not have been able to see it.

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Most of the 20 Chinese participants, however, were not confused by the hidden block and knew exactly which block the director was referring to. While following directions was relatively simple for the Chinese, it took Americans twice as long to move a block.


Was there any two way communication permitted? Were the participants allowed to inform the director about the presence of another block? It takes time to explain things. That could account for the delay in moving the block.

I would like to see the actual info on this test.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:


Does Chinese have definite articles?


No.
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anytime you have differences, people don't understand each other regardless of who they are, where they are from, or where they are at.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`s an interesting study, and you would only presume that it was posted out of anti amercian intentions if you were seriously jaundiced and predisposed to seeing anti americanism everywhere.
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I see two blocks and the director says "Pick up a block." I would ask "which one?" whether he could see the other one or not. I see it. Just seems natural to me to inform and ask. "Um, There's two blocks here. Which one do you want moved?"

Article could also be titled:

Chinese Assume Too Much
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