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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: US should reconsider no visa policy Reply with quote

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Over 100,000 Koreans illegally staying in RP
By EDU PUNAY
The Philippine Star

Over 100,000 Korean nationals are currently illegally staying in the
Philippines, the Bureau of Immigration (BI) said Wednesday. Information gathered by BI Intelligence and Investigation Division
led by Hussin showed that only 40,000 Koreans had been issued with
proper working or student visas and special study permits.


Maybe the US should reconsider the no visa policy for koreans. Imagine how many would flock to the US!!!
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't there about 100,000 illegal Koreans in every country in the world?

Last week it was Guatemala, we all know all western English speaking country has that probolem. Also anywhere that has a big sex tourism indistry.
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kick all illegal Mexicans out and let the Koreans in. I don't know why its so hard for Koreans to visit the US for a few months either. Aren't we supposed to be allies? I know they aren't perfect, but taken strictly as an ethnicity rather than as individuals, they're better than most groups. I know its scary that they might bring some more rub and tugs in and some prostitutes, but I think American just might need that.
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merkurix



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingplaya4 wrote:
Kick all illegal Mexicans out and let the Koreans in. I don't know why its so hard for Koreans to visit the US for a few months either. Aren't we supposed to be allies? I know they aren't perfect, but taken strictly as an ethnicity rather than as individuals, they're better than most groups. I know its scary that they might bring some more rub and tugs in and some prostitutes, but I think American just might need that.


America will need "rub-and-tugs" but it won't need profit-turning cheap labor for jobs that nobody wants?
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Sine qua non



Joined: 18 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP is one of the most misinformed posts; misinformed is a euphemism for ignorant, by the way.

There is no "no visa policy" in the U. S. for anyone except members of Hamas. The U. S. provides visas for the overwhelming majority of Koreans that apply for them. The U. S. is in no way "off-limits" for Korean citizens.

Where does this post come from? Is the OP just some anti-foreign Korean poster?
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gmat



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The U. S. provides visas for the overwhelming majority of Koreans that apply for them.


That is not true. It is not easy for Koreans to get a Visa for a US visit.
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hellofaniceguy



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmat wrote:
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The U. S. provides visas for the overwhelming majority of Koreans that apply for them.


That is not true. It is not easy for Koreans to get a Visa for a US visit.


It is their own fault for the high rejections the embassy issues. Can't blame the people who work at the embassy or USCIS.
It is a well known fact but not talked about, the reasons, for the rejections.
Prostitution in the U.S. by korean women. It was also stated by the U.S. ambassador to korea that prostitution is the main reason koreans have a difficult time getting visas. If you are single, have a non professional job and a korean woman, you are not getting a visa, your application is rejected, and that consequently adds to the rejection rate numbers which keeps koreans out of the visa waiver program.
Of all the "overstays" in the U.S., koreans pretty much lead many countries. I am not talking about illegals entering the country. Mexico wins that hands down.
Having lived in korea.....would you really want millions of koreans in your country? The gates would be open and millions would not be returning back to korea. Same with Canada or Australia. Have to have some control. It just so happens that it's a big problem in the U.S. with koreans being out of status with USCIS.
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Leavingkorea



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ick all illegal Mexicans out and let the Koreans in. I don't know why its so hard for Koreans to visit the US for a few months either.


Because the U.S. wants a minimum of 3% illegal stays from visa countries before they consider a visa waiver. Korea is in the 7% range now is one of the largest suppliers of overseas prostitutes.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rejection rate is the key item on determining if a particular country will qualify for the "no visa" program. And, no, the rejection rate is not based on "everyone knows it's because Koreans are prostitutes in the US." That assertion is beyond ignorant--it's pure bigotry. One of the factors for determining if a particular individual qualifies for a tourist visa is that person's economic ties to his current country of residence.
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faster



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
It is a well known fact but not talked about, the reasons, for the rejections.Prostitution in the U.S. by korean women.


It is not your first language, english, guessing, am I.
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Gamecock



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a Korean guy who told me he had just "returned" from the USA (i.e. been deported). He had lived there for 16 years on a student visa. So it's not just the prostitution causing U.S. immigration officials to be a little more particular in their scrutiny of Korean visa applications.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a few people I know shafted by the US VISA system.

#1. My sister's childhood friend was came to visit the US. It just so happened that my sister owned her own business. Well, at the airport in Washington DC, customs asked the friend some details about my sister. She told them my sister moved to the US at a young age, graduated college, and now has her own business. Right then they told her she can't come into the US. They assumed that the friend was going to the US to work illegally for my sister. The friend had to turn around and catch the next flight back to Korea.

#2. One of my childhood friends was coming to the US. She's never been and probably won't get a chance to come back for a while so she wanted to hit all the cities that she could before going back to Korea. They asked her where she planned to go and she said "Los Angeles, New York, Washington DC, and Chicago." They said she was traveling too much on 1 trip and they shortened her stay to just 30 days instead of the original 2 months.


I don't think the US should open up their VISA policy, I just think they should relax it a little. Its so strict that people have to lie or withhold as much information as possible for fear of getting rejected.
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Bibbitybop



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US immigration is farked all over the place. Decent, honest Koreans get rejected everyday while US troops are stationed here and US tourists don't need a visa for 30 days in Korea.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leavingkorea wrote:
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ick all illegal Mexicans out and let the Koreans in. I don't know why its so hard for Koreans to visit the US for a few months either.


Because the U.S. wants a minimum of 3% illegal stays from visa countries before they consider a visa waiver. Korea is in the 7% range now is one of the largest suppliers of overseas prostitutes.


minimum, eh?
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hellofaniceguy



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
The rejection rate is the key item on determining if a particular country will qualify for the "no visa" program. And, no, the rejection rate is not based on "everyone knows it's because Koreans are prostitutes in the US." That assertion is beyond ignorant--it's pure bigotry. One of the factors for determining if a particular individual qualifies for a tourist visa is that person's economic ties to his current country of residence.


Well then, you best go talk to the current U.S. Ambassador to korea who told the korean media and officials of the korean government just what I posted. Prostitution is a big reason for the rejections.
Of course the main factor for rejecting is whether or not the individual will become a financial burden on the U.S. government and a person's economic ties to their country. All applications for approval are at the whim of the adjudicating immigration official.
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