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taobenli
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:30 am Post subject: crazies and witty comebacks |
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This post has two parts (forgive me if I ramble even more than usual, as I've been drinking with the halmoni I live with)...
1. I was thinking of how I get "ambushed" in English at least once a day, either by kids screaming "hello" or an adjosshi (usually, but not always, drunk) waving his arms ridiculously and yelling "how are you" at the sight of a white female. Some days I'm in a good mood and it doesn't bother me (especially if it's cute kids) and some days it annoys me. BUT, I was just thinking of a time on the subway that a young man started enthusiastically gesturing and yelling in broken English, and I was at first annoyed at being singled out, but then noticed that he was harrassing other passengers equally in Korea...just an odd guy. I then thought: how many of the unsavory characters that we run into are not just annoying, but actually mentally ill/unbalanced?
This is not a Korea-bashing thread, merely a speculation: I doubt that Korea has more mentally ill people than other places, but given the high population density it would make sense that we encounter them more often here.
2. Given the seemingly unsettled mental state of some of our daily irritants, what are some good responses to these routine irritations?
- A Korean (friend or aquaintance) makes an uncomfortable racist comment about Black/Hispanic, etc. people. Translating literally to say "You're a racist" has nothing like the effect it would have in the U.S. What's a way to say (not word for word, but in real natural Korean) something along the lines of "Go back to your cave" or "that's a really backward way to think"?
-Clerks in stores take forever to give you the total in English when they don't really know English: what has worked for me is saying "영어 잘하시네요!" even when they don't. Most clerks have gotten flustered by this and responded in Korean.
-Crazy/drunk/unmannered ajosshi yells "hello" and gestures on the street: just once, I have turned around and done a little bow while saying "Konnichi wa" (Ni hao would probably work just as well), and the response was surprise and then annoyance.
So what are your strategies? Let's make this a useful survival Korean for witty comebacks thread! |
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chasmmi
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Ulsan
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: |
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미안하지만, 내가 영어 못하는때 한국어 할 수 있어요? |
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RJjr

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Turning on a Lamp
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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A guy in Cheonho who walked beside of me on my way home one day going WHOOAAA busy busy (or maybe it was WHOOAAA Mississippi) over and over and over again with slobber flying out of his mouth took me by surprise and left me speechless. I didn't know what to say. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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walk on, say nothing. this usual works best with earphones on, but makes a stronger statement with earphones off. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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I was walking down a narrow alley on Tuesday with my wife and an ajosshi accosted us. He was obviously drunk, covered in sweat, and surprisingly spoke English. The conversation went as follows:
HIM: Where are you from?
ME: Uh, Canada.
HIM: How long have you been in Korea?
ME: A few years.
HIM: Can you speak Korean?
ME: Only a little bit. (looking over his shoulder, and seeing a box of flaming garbage he had obviously set fire to) Uh, should we do something about that fire?
HIM: Is this your wife?
ME: (standing in front of her) Yes.
HIM: She is very beautiful.
ME: Anyway, nice meeting you. We have to go have supper.
HIM: Nice meeting you.
ME: (whispering to wife) Okay, let's get out of here.
So anyway, I caught an arsonist in the act. As far as I can tell he was trying to be nice so I wouldn't be suspicious of the flaming pile of garbage on the doorstep behind him.
Here's a picture of him in the act, taken a moment before the encounter. You can see the start of the flame on the white box on the step.
http://www.daehanmindecline.com/digital/20070717constitutionday/86.JPG |
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just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: |
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chasmmi wrote: |
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미안하지만, 내가 영어 못하는때 한국어 할 수 있어요? |
good one!!! |
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just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: Re: crazies and witty comebacks |
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taobenli wrote: |
- A Korean (friend or aquaintance) makes an uncomfortable racist comment about Black/Hispanic, etc. people. Translating literally to say "You're a racist" has nothing like the effect it would have in the U.S. What's a way to say (not word for word, but in real natural Korean) something along the lines of "Go back to your cave" or "that's a really backward way to think"? |
well you should say " I know everything you know about blacks and hispanics is from American media, and not real life. That is just the American media that makes former slaves and conquered people look bad, to justify why they were conquered, so don't believe it"
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-Clerks in stores take forever to give you the total in English when they don't really know English: what has worked for me is saying "영어 잘하시네요!" even when they don't. Most clerks have gotten flustered by this and responded in Korean. |
just say 감사합니다 back!
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-Crazy/drunk/unmannered ajosshi yells "hello" and gestures on the street: just once, I have turned around and done a little bow while saying "Konnichi wa" (Ni hao would probably work just as well), and the response was surprise and then annoyance. |
well you were being rude on purpose. no one is rude to you on purpose right? its just that koreans spend many many frustrating hundreds of hours learning english, so when they see you, they get excited. because now finally they learned all that "useless" english for something! (to talk to you) it is an innocent curiousity, I suggest you do not attach western connotations with an innocent act like that.
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So what are your strategies? Let's make this a useful survival Korean for witty comebacks thread! |
personally, I imagine you to be really pretty for people to say this to you randomly. the real crime i suppose is being too beautiful.  |
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toddswift

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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just teach them something terrible......
korean: How are you today
me: How is your yeast infection
korean: Huh
ME: YEAST INFECTION
YEEE SSSSSSSSSST INNNNNNNN FECCCTIOOOON.
YEAST INFECTION.
koran: yeEEEEEssinfection
ME: VERY GOOD! |
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just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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toddswift wrote: |
just teach them something terrible......
korean: How are you today
me: How is your yeast infection
korean: Huh
ME: YEAST INFECTION
YEEE SSSSSSSSSST INNNNNNNN FECCCTIOOOON.
YEAST INFECTION.
koran: yeEEEEEssinfection
ME: VERY GOOD! |
don't worry, i'll be close by listening. |
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toddswift

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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just another day wrote: |
toddswift wrote: |
just teach them something terrible......
korean: How are you today
me: How is your yeast infection
korean: Huh
ME: YEAST INFECTION
YEEE SSSSSSSSSST INNNNNNNN FECCCTIOOOON.
YEAST INFECTION.
koran: yeEEEEEssinfection
ME: VERY GOOD! |
don't worry, i'll be close by listening. |
why, do you have a yeast infection. Its nothing to be ashamed of, some girl posted she had one recently. I think koreans should learn real english. That way if their teacher does have a yeast infection, it can explain a lot of things, like why the room smells like a clogged sewer. |
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just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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toddswift wrote: |
just another day wrote: |
toddswift wrote: |
just teach them something terrible......
korean: How are you today
me: How is your yeast infection
korean: Huh
ME: YEAST INFECTION
YEEE SSSSSSSSSST INNNNNNNN FECCCTIOOOON.
YEAST INFECTION.
koran: yeEEEEEssinfection
ME: VERY GOOD! |
don't worry, i'll be close by listening. |
why, do you have a yeast infection. Its nothing to be ashamed of, some girl posted she had one recently. I think koreans should learn real english. That way if their teacher does have a yeast infection, it can explain a lot of things, like why the room smells like a clogged sewer. |
are u from calgary? i hear people from calgary are real jerks. |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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No, no, that clogged sewer smell is a clogged sewer. The yeast infection is the one that smells like piss and aged gouda. |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: crazies and witty comebacks |
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just another day wrote: |
well you were being rude on purpose. no one is rude to you on purpose right? its just that koreans spend many many frustrating hundreds of hours learning english, so when they see you, they get excited. because now finally they learned all that "useless" english for something! (to talk to you) it is an innocent curiousity, I suggest you do not attach western connotations with an innocent act like that. |
You're Korean right? It is annoying having people rudely shout "hi" at you. "Hi" is banmal in my opinion and and if I respond, it is either the way the OP did or with "an nyeoung". There are tons of Russians near where I live, so why assume that because I am white, I must speak English?
I am not teaching English here to have random people walk up to me and treat me like a circus freak or as you say "innocent curiosity". Yeah, it's really innocent when they all start laughing afterwards.
To the OP-headphones are the key. |
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just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: crazies and witty comebacks |
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oskinny1 wrote: |
just another day wrote: |
well you were being rude on purpose. no one is rude to you on purpose right? its just that koreans spend many many frustrating hundreds of hours learning english, so when they see you, they get excited. because now finally they learned all that "useless" english for something! (to talk to you) it is an innocent curiousity, I suggest you do not attach western connotations with an innocent act like that. |
You're Korean right? It is annoying having people rudely shout "hi" at you. "Hi" is banmal in my opinion and and if I respond, it is either the way the OP did or with "an nyeoung". There are tons of Russians near where I live, so why assume that because I am white, I must speak English?
I am not teaching English here to have random people walk up to me and treat me like a circus freak or as you say "innocent curiosity". Yeah, it's really innocent when they all start laughing afterwards.
To the OP-headphones are the key. |
in english, there is no such thing as banmal, so that point is irrelevant.
also, its common to associate english with white. just like it is common to associate asian with chinese in areas with no asians in america.
its all relative. anyways, they were right weren't they? that u spoke english? so what are u complaining about? did people make hamburger (chinky) eyes at you and call you (chink) neanderthal man?
you came to korea to teach english, and you know that being a white westerner in itself gives you some of that credential. did you expect that getting easy money for being a paid ventriloquist comes with nothing but perks? if so, then I have a time traveling spaceship I want to sell you.
and i am white. i just happen to be intelligent.  |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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If you were intelligent you would know that there is formal and informal English. "Hi" is informal, banmal. If one were to say "good morning" or the like, I would be happy to respond.
And stop trying to pick up girls on Dave's, it's tacky. |
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