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Having one of those 'I dislike Korea very much days."
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Having one of those 'I dislike Korea very much days." Reply with quote

I can't say that I hate it, becuase I don't. But I am miffed at it. I've run into a problem with one of my fellow English teahcers; who has been here for a while and has gained a fair amount of knowledge about how things work here.

From this teacher I keep getting pointers on how to improve my demeanour and in-office interaction.

I know that I'm new at this game, this is my first trip to a foreign country and I do need help sometimes. But it seems that my every action is under the watchful eye of big brother and everything that I do in and out of the school seems to be judged. I actually hate talking to this teacher at any great length becuase I know that I'm going to hear how my actions can be improved.

Oddly enough I haven't heard anything about my actual teaching ability. Just the personal interaction stuff. For example: Telling everyone good bye at the end of the day.

Perhaps I'm just too new at this game.


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Apple



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: S. Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont sweat it man.. You can do things for yourself and figure out how everything works thru trial and error. I would politely tell this person that you dont really want his/her adivce and you really need to figure out things for yourself. No offense to them of course. I have had to do this and I think its very important to find your own way..
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apple wrote:
Dont sweat it man.. You can do things for yourself and figure out how everything works thru trial and error. I would politely tell this person that you dont really want his/her adivce and you really need to figure out things for yourself. No offense to them of course. I have had to do this and I think its very important to find your own way..


That's what I want to do. I want to make mistakes and learn. I don't want an 'How-to" manual on Korea.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half the job is personal interaction in your workplace & the smoother that goes, the smoother your time here. The example of advice you cite is a good suggestion. If your colleague is acting like a superior twit I sympathize with you, but dont brush off useful cultural insight he might be offering just on account of that.

Relax & learn. Maybe youre fortunate to have a mentor.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Half the job is personal interaction in your workplace & the smoother that goes, the smoother your time here. The example of advice you cite is a good suggestion. If your colleague is acting like a superior twit I sympathize with you, but dont brush off useful cultural insight he might be offering just on account of that.

Relax & learn. Maybe youre fortunate to have a mentor.


It is a good suggestion and I will start doing it, but I feel that I'm expected to depend on them; like I'm their responibilty. Perhaps I am, but I don't to be. I don't want a mentor. I'd rather screw up on my own. I don't want to depend on a sage-like character. Is it foolish, yes, am I over reacting. Odds are yes.

I don't mind getting pointers on teaching. This is the reason why I'm here and I understand that completely, but when getting pointers on manors and demanour in office and out, than I have a problem with it.

I'm sure that this is one of those times where I'll look back in five years time and curse myself for being so stuborn. But right now it seems like a pain in the A$$.
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Wondering



Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We once had a meeting where we were told that we had to say good morning to the boss every morning when we went in and goodbye before we left. Considering that the boss never made it in before we did, it was a pain the neck to hang around waiting for her so we could say good morning instead of getting some work done or preparing for classes, or even watching the kids who came in early. As for goodbye, well, she was hard to track down. I finally flat out told her that it was difficult to say good morning to her when she came in later than I did and I had work to do and she got mad and chewed me out. I never said good morning to her again unless I happened to see her before classes. Never tried to hunt her down to say goodbye, but would if I saw her on my way out. Same as how I'd done before that meeting. She never got on my case about it ever again, so I guess that was how we resolved things. I think she just wanted to exert her "authority" since she was new. Once she realized that I didn't not respect but wouldn't go out of my way to put on a face about it, she seemed okay with it.
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't speak Korean that well, but its my distinct impression Koreans could care less for our awkward bowing, and our lousy anyong haseyos and anyong hi kaseyos. Just be a polite foreigner, unless the boss actually talks to you personally about saying good morning or whatever I wouldn't worry about it.

This guy doesn't sound like a bad guy, but he probably doesn't have much in his life to be proud of other than knowing something about Korean culture.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingplaya4 wrote:
I don't speak Korean that well, but its my distinct impression Koreans could care less for our awkward bowing, and our lousy anyong haseyos and anyong hi kaseyos. Just be a polite foreigner, unless the boss actually talks to you personally about saying good morning or whatever I wouldn't worry about it.

This guy doesn't sound like a bad guy, but he probably doesn't have much in his life to be proud of other than knowing something about Korean culture.


I don't have to bow or stumble through my terrible Korean. Honestly I haven't even tried speaking it yet, I'm just getting past "getting able to read licence plates" stage. Honestly does anyone know what the words on the plates say? No one seems to know.

The teacher is a perfectionist. Which is nice for the school and for them, but when you try to improve other people, I have a problem with that. Like I said I'm new at this game and I'm going to make mistakes but I don't think that I should be corrected on every little thing that I do. Other than that one person, my stay here has been great. But I hate working with someone who has the attitude of "This is so simple, Why don't you know this?"
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Letiz7



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sound like a very pleasant, considerate person.
Your co-worker sounds like an annoying prat.

Ask questions to the point where he says something dumb.
He will. I've met this type before. And at that point, you'll realise what a sad sack he is. And then you'll feel better!
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just arrived back to Korea last night (after 4 months on holiday), i was presented to the School Board this morning, and i was taken to my new school. one of the teachers wanted to introduce me to his class. loud, friendly kids, they wanted to know where i was from.

i, foolishly, told the truth. "I'm from Virginia."

just you try and guess what happened.
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...so...what happened?
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taobenli



Joined: 26 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They made shooting gestures and noises.

Am I right?
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bingo. welcome back to Korea, KWhitehead.
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toddswift



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Having one of those 'I dislike Korea very much days.&quo Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
I can't say that I hate it, becuase I don't. But I am miffed at it. I've run into a problem with one of my fellow English teahcers; who has been here for a while and has gained a fair amount of knowledge about how things work here.

From this teacher I keep getting pointers on how to improve my demeanour and in-office interaction.

I know that I'm new at this game, this is my first trip to a foreign country and I do need help sometimes. But it seems that my every action is under the watchful eye of big brother and everything that I do in and out of the school seems to be judged. I actually hate talking to this teacher at any great length becuase I know that I'm going to hear how my actions can be improved.

Oddly enough I haven't heard anything about my actual teaching ability. Just the personal interaction stuff. For example: Telling everyone good bye at the end of the day.

Perhaps I'm just too new at this game.








QUIT BEING A NED FLANDERS!


This teacher big brother is an asshole. Just tell him or her to mind their own business and think nothing of it. They seem to want some kind of power, but they have NO POWER, your boss has all the power. I have met teachers like this, they want to have power, pretend they have power, and then find some new teacher to act this fallacy out. If you fall for it you are to blame. If you catch them at their game they will respect you more. If push comes to shove go to the most powerful person and ask for their advice and then tell Mr. asssssssssss to kiss off!
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toddswift



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWhitehead wrote:
i just arrived back to Korea last night (after 4 months on holiday), i was presented to the School Board this morning, and i was taken to my new school. one of the teachers wanted to introduce me to his class. loud, friendly kids, they wanted to know where i was from.

i, foolishly, told the truth. "I'm from Virginia."

just you try and guess what happened.




what, they did a CHO gun pose???????
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