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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:09 am Post subject: Koreans Believing in Hollywood's Stereotypes About Blacks |
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Lord of the Rings was hugely popular in Korea.
Anyone watching could or having a rudimentary knowledge of JRR Tolkien's literature knows that the Orcs represent blacks and monogloids.
However many Koreans did like King Kong. As we all know, in the early days of Hollywood, King Kong was representative of the black man who ravages white women. |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| Koreans believe in anythng you tell them...what's your point? |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| ^ Hollywood spreads negative stereotypes about blacks and hispanics, all over the world, not just America. |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| What should they think when they see a rap video? |
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Tjames426
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Anyone watching could or having a rudimentary knowledge of JRR Tolkien's literature knows that the Orcs represent blacks and monogloids.
However many Koreans did like King Kong. As we all know, in the early days of Hollywood, King Kong was representative of the black man who ravages white women.
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Personally, I don't think anyone would get that from watching Gorilla King Kong, or reading "Lord of the Rings".
Why try to create a racial issue where one does not exist??? |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Tjames426 wrote: |
Anyone watching could or having a rudimentary knowledge of JRR Tolkien's literature knows that the Orcs represent blacks and monogloids.
However many Koreans did like King Kong. As we all know, in the early days of Hollywood, King Kong was representative of the black man who ravages white women.
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Personally, I don't think anyone would get that from watching Gorilla King Kong, or reading "Lord of the Rings".
Why try to create a racial issue where one does not exist??? |
so you are saying hollywood does not stereotype blacks and hispanics negatively?
is that what you are implying or saying? i would like some clarification. |
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PeterDragon
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywood does sometimes portray blacks, Hispanics and other minorities negatively. But not in King Kong or Lord of the Rings. Use some better exampoles, man. |
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Tony_Balony
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| From LOTR's beginnings the interpretation has been that Orcs are Nazis. |
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just another day
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: |
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here is Tolkien's writings himself
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Tolkien describes Orcs explicitly in one of his Letters:
...they are (or were) squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types. |
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PeterDragon
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| I'm aware of what Tolkein intended. But it never came through in the reading of the books, and was lost entirely in Peter Jackson's movies. |
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soju pizza
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| just another day wrote: |
here is Tolkien's writings himself
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Tolkien describes Orcs explicitly in one of his Letters:
...they are (or were) squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types. |
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Sounds like some of the men in my neighborhood.
Just kidding!
Seriously though, what's your point? That media perpetuates stereotypes? Troll. |
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Tony_Balony
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| Good luck, I'm gone. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Koreans Believing in Hollywood's Stereotypes About Black |
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| just another day wrote: |
Lord of the Rings was hugely popular in Korea.
Anyone watching could or having a rudimentary knowledge of JRR Tolkien's literature knows that the Orcs represent blacks and monogloids.
However many Koreans did like King Kong. As we all know, in the early days of Hollywood, King Kong was representative of the black man who ravages white women. |
I think both of those assumptions are stretching just a little too much. If that's what Koreans get out of the stereotypes that's one thing, but if nobody says anything and you're assuming they do because you think people could believe King Kong is a black man, maybe it's your own beliefs you should examine. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| It started with the LA riots, not hollywood. |
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MollyBloom
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Tolkien was also an Anglo-Saxon scholar.
Maybe the Orcs come from Grendel in Beowulf? |
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