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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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They all want vengence for what was done to Slick Willy Clinton.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| contrarian wrote: |
| [A]ll [they] want [is] vengence... |
Bingo. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| contrarian wrote: |
| [A]ll [they] want [is] vengence... |
Bingo. |
Correcting grammar on [a] message board like you [are] an editorr [sic] [is] [p]retentious. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| contrarian wrote: |
| [A]ll [they] want [is] vengence... |
Bingo. |
Correcting grammar on [a] message board like you [are] an editorr [sic] [is] [p]retentious. |
Negative. There were no grammar errors there in the first place.
You ought to ask what I intended before pouncing. Makes you look impulsive.  |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| contrarian wrote: |
| [A]ll [they] want [is] vengence... |
Bingo. |
No, if I wanted Bush impeached it would be for stating that war was the last resort while clearly pushing for war, claiming Iraq and Al Qaeda were linked (at least Cheney stated that without proof). Clearly, the Congress was misled. I am not impressed with this administration over the wire taps (just as Feingold isn't), the undermining of FEMA and the disasterous way of handling of New Orleans, but you would have to prove that Bush deliberately misled the public. There is no such proof. One would need something on tape or written documentation. There is circumstantial evidence that the administration lied, but that's not enough for a conviction, just a trial and with his term almost over, it is pointless.
You could argue, perhaps, for Cheney since he stated Al Qaeda and
Saddam were linked when there was no credible evidence for that. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Impeach the Pussey! |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: |
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[you would have to prove that Bush deliberately misled the public. There is no such proof.
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Exactly. And that is where it ends. Pretty much all the mainstream magazines have come to the same conclusion. Both TIME and NEWSWEEK have stated there is no proof Bush knowingly lied.
The Economist, not exactly a Bush stronghold, has also called these claims into question saying that they seem to be "nonsense" |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| ...you would have to prove that...There is no such proof...There is circumstantial evidence that... |
At least you recognize this. At the end of the day, these people have nothing but their ill-tempered, cynical worldviews and their impressions that W. Bush must have done something impeachable.
They are entitlted to whatever worldview and whatever impression they would like. Many get the impression that Hollywood staged Neil Armtstrong's moon landing, for example. Others have the impression that W. Bush perpetrated 9/11. Lo que sea.
I wish these people would stop forcing their worldviews and impressions onto the rest of us, however, especially their shrill and sarcastic tone of voice. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: ... |
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At the end of the day, these people have nothing but their ill-tempered, cynical worldviews and their impressions that W. Bush must have done something impeachable.
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What if I were to say that acting extra-judicially is fundamentally anti-constitutional?
I agree. It is unconstitutional. |
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=56993&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| hmmm, what happened to EFL Trainer? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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They all want vengence for what was done to Slick Willy Clinton.
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The impeachment of Clinton was stupid .
At any rate the far right and the far right are the enemy and the combination of the two are the real enemy. Not Bill Clinton or mainstream Democrats. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Nowhere Man: so what? You are trying too hard at whatever it is that you have appointed yourself to do. I remain flattered that you pay so careful attn to what I write here. Glad I can help educate you.
Let us continue with your education: the first quote states my views on a specific issue; the second deals with a hypothetical that you raised in bad-faith more than a year ago, Mr. Gopher Groupie.
Now, I understand that in your role as my personal investigator, you have tried in the past to bait me on this or that, and you apparently save these comments in your own files. Good for you. But you will note that I stopped playing your "I'm-gonna-get-you-Gopher!" game a while ago. You are left with little more than this petty harassment. I mean, do you even have a question for me when you do these things?
In any case, again: so what? What is it that you think you have exposed here?
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Poll: Americans Want Bush Impeached
Growing Majority Want Bush Impeached
by David Swanson
Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 02:10:40 PM PDT
Poll: Americans Favor Bush's Impeachment If He Lied about Iraq
By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush... |
For the record, Igotthisguitar created this thread in October 2005. It cited a majority and it alleged that this majority was growing. This majority aimed to impeach W. Bush.
Interesting. Nearly two years have passed. And the Democrats retook Congress in the meantime. One would think that were something of substance there, this, by this time, huge and unstoppable majority and a Democratic Congress would have impeached the President by now...or at least began the process...or something, anything at all. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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For the record, Igotthisguitar created this thread in October 2005. It cited a majority and it alleged that this majority was growing. This majority aimed to impeach W. Bush.
Interesting. Nearly two years have passed. And the Democrats retook Congress in the meantime. One would think that were something of substance there, this, by this time, huge and unstoppable majority and a Democratic Congress would have impeached the President by now...or at least began the process...or something, anything at all. |
Gopher,
I think you'd be better to investigate the nature of truth. You seem to believe that the truth is something which involves a result/an action.
As always bogus science and thinking from you -- straight line, military bullwash. The truth is the truth is the truth. A majority still do want Bush impreached. That he is not, does in no way mean this is "untrue".
Most people in this world want peace in Iraq. That there is none, does not in any way make this "untrue". That's just another example of your false logic.
Quit hitting us with your claims that those who believe in a better world (in some way shape or form) are invalid and to be discounted, just because said better world (in whatever way shape or form) has materialized. It is in the nature of knowledge that truth resides independent of appearances.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
| Quit hitting us with your claims that those who believe in a better world (in some way shape or form) are invalid and to be discounted...just because said better world (in whatever way shape or form) has [not] materialized... |
Ddeubel: I am not going to put this one into prose. Prose will not work. But I have another analogy, a much tighter analogy (less the catwalks and swimwear, of course ).
That is right. You guessed it. I think many of you on the far left sound too much like beauty pageant contestants in the interviews-on-the-issues segment.
World peace.
No more suffering.
Save the planet.
Plant more trees.
Dogs and cats should live together in harmony.
Look! I can play the piano and twirl a baton.
What-have-you.
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