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Homer
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 Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice try stevie..but you are still the one who made fun of them for being Korean and used the fact they got kidnapped to make a really low and stupid demeaning joke-comment.... |
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oskinny1
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| otherwise I'd send mony as ransom, if it would help. |
Yeah, paying ransom is the key. Have some Italian blood in you?
nothing wrong with Italians other than their idiotic zeal to pay ransoms |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Homer,
I agree and also about Stevie. Seems to him, the world was made for his "ill" one liners. |
I see. So it's perfectly all right for Homer to call them idiots as long as he's on the same side of most issues as you are, eh?
Homer:
I agree my remark was flippant and therefore callous under the circumstances but that doesn't make it any more demeaning that the other thread on this forum on the very same incident in which I've read a slew of similar posts.
Still, two wrongs don't make a right.
What spurred my comment, which of course you couldn't know, is the initial Korean media shock over the matter. Why should the media here be so surprised that their own people would be subject to seizure? The state Chinese press had a similar reaction when some of their people were killed in an explosion recently in Pakistan. It's as if they think only Americans and other Westerne civilians would fall prey to terrorists. If anything should be clear by now it's that Islamofascists are opposed to any foreign influence in their midst, whether military or civilian, political or benign.
Regardless, the point of my previous post is that calling them "idiots" is just as demeaning. So nice try, Homie.
Actually, I admire these Koreans persistence and courage in doing what they feel they are spiritually bound to do.
Those Taliban savages could learn a lot from them; let the Taliban proselytze in a similar civil manner and I wouldn't have any qualms about it.
We can agree that it was perhaps foolhardy but these Koreans were motivated by sincere concerns. Frankly, I think some of the criticism against them is driven by atheist contempt.
That said, I sincerely hope they are let go. Let me make that clear, although my original post here did not imply otherwise. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea should say; yes, we will withdraw the 200 troops, and in their place we'll send in a division of ROK Marines to hunt you suckers down and collect ears - that's what they did in VietNam. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I called them idiots for going to such a dangerous country being themselves so vulnerable.
You made a racist joke of the incident...and saying others here make such callous and demeaning remarks does not excuse you steve. |
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in_seoul_2003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
| but these Koreans were motivated by sincere concerns. |
Sincerity?
--Sincerity as in telling a bunch of Iraqi captors that they were not in fact missionaries but rather massage artists?
--Sincerity as in wanting to lay claim to being the nation with the largest international missionary contigents like they want the biggest highrise or top-ten university?
--Sincerity as in colluding with white missionaries to go to Afghanistan instead of whites because they will be less conspicuous and therefore better adapted to plying their trade in secrecy?
--Sincerity in the sense that they have the nerve to pretend to know anything about Afghanistan, let alone anything outside Bulgwang or Seoul?
--Sincerity in the sense that they are evidently more concerned with orgasmically converting an Afghan than helping the same North Korean defectors they helped smuggle cope with their poverty and depression once in the South?
--Sincerity in the sense that sending out missionaries to the "impoverished of the world" helps Koreans cope with the third-world specter that constantly haunts their imagination of how the 'first-world' views them? |
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in_seoul_2003
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| contrarian wrote: |
| Korea should say; yes, we will withdraw the 200 troops, and in their place we'll send in a division of ROK Marines to hunt you suckers down and collect ears - that's what they did in VietNam. |
Ah yes, the awe-inspiring ROK Marines.
Then again, how can we be so certain that they will accomplish what the Brits and Russians couldn't? |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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in seoul wrote:
Your points are well taken. I meant sincerity in a limited sense to refer to the fact that they have the strength of their convictions as it relates to their faith. But I don't condone dissembling on their part by any stretch.
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| You made a racist joke of the incident...and saying others here make such callous and demeaning remarks does not excuse you steve. |
Talking about kimchi spray is hardly racist in my book. Irreverant and in bad taste, perhaps, but racist, no I beg to differ. The charge of racism is used by people like you to silence all debate or, in this case, to single out others. I stand by my second post to this thread.
Now I realize you are personally invested in this society, so I don't expect you to react rationally, but give it a whirl Mr. Simpson. Bart might be proud of you yet. |
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okokok
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
I called them idiots for going to such a dangerous country being themselves so vulnerable.
You made a racist joke of the incident...and saying others here make such callous and demeaning remarks does not excuse you steve. |
Oh yeah, there you are all they way up there on your high-horse again Homer. Who made you the board's moral police?
You are the most irritating poster on this board. How dare you pass yourself off as a Simpson. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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in_seoul:
The ROK Marines could do it simply because they are more direct and , for want of a better term, brutal. They would not ask kind and gentle questions but "tell us who are where" or you and your buddies and maybe your family dies.
The Americans can't (orders) the Canadian's can't (orders) but others of a more "asian" understanding can. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Hey okokokok
Is that you down there rolling around in the mud? Can't make you out from way up here? |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| okokok wrote: |
| Homer wrote: |
I called them idiots for going to such a dangerous country being themselves so vulnerable.
You made a racist joke of the incident...and saying others here make such callous and demeaning remarks does not excuse you steve. |
Oh yeah, there you are all they way up there on your high-horse again Homer. Who made you the board's moral police?
You are the most irritating poster on this board. . |
I think you're a strong contender for it though. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
"ill" one liners.
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Having a Brother as your avatar doesn't afford you the cred to speak like one. Maybe you are just a J-Rock at heart, eh david. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Your points are well taken. I meant sincerity in a limited sense to refer to the fact that they have the strength of their convictions as it relates to their faith. |
There is nothing at all admirable about strength of conviction. There is nothing admirable about believing very strongly that you have the right idea about how to live and someone else has the wrong idea. The Islamofascists also have a lot of conviction, and Hitler, Mao, and Stalin also had a lot of conviction. Conviction on it's own it's nothing to be admired. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Your points are well taken. I meant sincerity in a limited sense to refer to the fact that they have the strength of their convictions as it relates to their faith. |
There is nothing at all admirable about strength of conviction. There is nothing admirable about believing very strongly that you have the right idea about how to live and someone else has the wrong idea. The Islamofascists also have a lot of conviction, and Hitler, Mao, and Stalin also had a lot of conviction. Conviction on it's own it's nothing to be admired. |
Dude, give me my persona back. I don't feel so special anymore... |
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