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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:01 am Post subject: Education Board Registration~Please advise |
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My boss says he needs a 'copy of my passport' and original degree to register me with the Korean Board of Education.
I agree to print him off a copy, then he says he needs the original (passport).
This seems dodgy to me since I can't remember ever having to do this at previous jobs.
Also, all teachers' original degrees are being held in his office 'on file', which I know isn't legal--or is it?
I have my ARC, E-2, and medical card. All legit so far.
Can someone please advise me whether or not this man needs my original passport. I am reluctant to hand it over (I don't think I need to explain why). |
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Sody
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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When I used to work for GEPIK, I had to give them the passport for the same reason. I got it back the same day. They shouldn't be holding onto your degree.
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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I know they shouldn't. But they are. All teachers' degrees are held 'on file'. I don't want to raise a stink, as I've just started the job and have another 2 original degrees (just in case, heh...) as well as sealed transcripts.
But I've NEVER heard of having to hand over an original passport for a Board of Education Registration...
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I have never heard of it either.
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: |
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I'm guessing you are at a hogwan.
I would explain that your passport needs to be copied and returned to you. Explain that it is your property and your embassy tells you not to let anyone keep it.
You degree is also your property and there is no law that says your employer keeps it. Personally, I got copies of my degree notarized in my home country, so even if my employer wanted my original, it's locked up safely in my home country. |
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Sody
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Woah! That is kinda scary, I'm sorry I should of asked before giving any input. I just assumed you worked for a public school. I have no idea why in the hell they would need your passport. Perhaps go with them to the BoE and get your passport back right away? I wouldn't give it to them but I understand the awkwardness of being a new teacher there
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| Sody wrote: |
Woah! That is kinda scary, I'm sorry I should of asked before giving any input. I just assumed you worked for a public school. I have no idea why in the hell they would need your passport. Perhaps go with them to the BoE and get your passport back right away? I wouldn't give it to them but I understand the awkwardness of being a new teacher there
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I personally wouldn't be giving my passport to anyone other than to Immigration (as you need to as part of the process of getting your ARC or getting the E2 visa in the passport ... If you do ... and don't get it back within the day or so ... I would be strongly asking for it back ... telling them that immigration have told you that you need to carry it with you... because it has the E2 visa in it ... or because you need to produce it at the bank and any number of other places just to live in Korea as a foreigner and do day to day things ... (Now that may be a bit stronger a statement than the reality of life here ... but there is more than a measure of truth in both statements ... While I don't make a habit of carryng my passport with me all the time (because I don't want to lose it .. I do know that carrying it is recommended and you can be asked for it at any time ... And there are any number of things like opening bank accounts that do usually require passport ID as part of the process ... That probably does give you a way of asking for it back ... without saying I think you want it for the wrong reasons ... to a relatively new employer. I would actually take the same line with the original of the diploma ... A copy that they have taken from the original is all that they really need for their file ... While I did use an original in my visa application process this time ... I think I would take the suggestion made by some people on this list to use certified copies ... which are legally just as valid ... rather than risking the original ... I faced a "we need to keep it in case we are audited" line when I first asked for mine back ... but did succeed in getting it back ... by offering to bring it in if needed for that ... and mentioning just how much it would cost me to replace them if they were lost or damaged (I had 3 diplomas that they had ... at around $200 all up to replace) and I was just worried about keeping them safe ...
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Yep. I have no idea what the hell's going on.
Thank god I have 2 other original degrees and tons of sealed transcripts.
I'm going to ask for my degree back (the original)--even though the other teachers at my hakwon haven't. I wonder if I should 'ask strongly' for it. Hardly seems worth stirring up a hornet's nest but I see no reason why he should keep it. He says it's in case the place is 'checked' by immigration. Total crap. We all have ARC's.
Also, I'm simply going to tell him 'no' to the original passport. He doesn't need it. I'll phone the Board of Education in the morning to make sure 100% that he doesn't need it, or go with him.
After years here I trust nobody who owns a hakwon.
Why the hell am I still in hakwons anyway? Next year public for sure. Enough of this bs. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Also why is there no thread on this? (Sticky???) BOE apps? |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Tokki1"]
I'm going to ask for my degree back (the original)--even though the other teachers at my hakwon haven't. I wonder if I should 'ask strongly' for it. Hardly seems worth stirring up a hornet's nest but I see no reason why he should keep it. He says it's in case the place is 'checked' by immigration. Total crap. We all have ARC's.
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My public school gave me a similar reason initially for wanting to keep my Diploma ... "in case we are audited" ... And I do think that in their case they did honestly mean that ... But an "I'll bring it in" when this happens ... did help to contribute to me actually getting it back ...
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I've had to "register" with the MOE at every job I've had. I handed over my passport, ARC, and degree to my boss who drives over to the office, and brings me back my stuff within a couple of hours. They don't need it for any longer, so it should be back in your hands the same day.
I've never had any problems, nor have any of my co-workers. Some people on here need to realise that not everyone in Korea is out to get them and screw them over in some way.
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| kprrok wrote: |
Yes, I've had to "register" with the MOE at every job I've had. I handed over my passport, ARC, and degree to my boss who drives over to the office, and brings me back my stuff within a couple of hours. They don't need it for any longer, so it should be back in your hands the same day.
I've never had any problems, nor have any of my co-workers. Some people on here need to realise that not everyone in Korea is out to get them and screw them over in some way.
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Yeah, gee. I wonder why some people would feel that way. LMFAO?  |
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