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[DCJames]

I think the numbers Moore presents in the film speak for themselves, especially the one that say Canadians, Cubans, and the French live longer than Americans.

[cbclark4]

[smogdonkey]

I am honestly having a very hard time finding things to defend about the American health care system. Are we not still the richest country in the world? How is it possible that the richest country in the world has a ranking of 37 in the WHO health care rankings? How is it possible that you're complaining that someone might not have noticed that we're ranked two higher than CUBA? CUUUUUUBAAAAAA???

Unfortunately, the profit margins are so high, and so many people are making such an ungodly amount of money, that this will take a long, painful time to change. I hope my parents find some means of moving to Canada before they're too old.

Someone who has seen the movie and/or lived abroad in any of these compared countries, please tell me what there is to love about this system. How can someone rationally say that even though a huge chunk of the population can't afford care, it's a better system. This just seems like one of those defenseless arguments. One poster made mention that Moore should have given balance to the issue by stating X and Y, but we know that's not what he's here to do. His goal is to open our eyes, and get it back in the spotlight, and let us bitch it out ourselves.

A defender is so hard-up for an angle that he turns to Moore's weight... because we all know he's one of the very tiny number of Americans who is overweight...

[pkang0202]

[pkang0202]

[smogdonkey]

[smogdonkey]

So we just give up? We just say sorry, it's impossible for us rich folks to help you in this country. Yeah yeah yeah, other countries can do it, but it wouldn't work in the US?

I'm not going to pretend to be smart enough to come up with a plan for it to work, but in a country where Alex Rodriguez makes more money than the state of Idaho, there's got to be something that can be done... but I'm amazed that some people are content with it, and feel a need to defend it.

[smogdonkey]

[mithridates]

[sojourner1]

Where each American stands on this issue is based on their situations such as having insurance, decent paying job, and assets or working without insurance, going into debt, and just living on the common financial treadmill of misery.

I believe if you took the same personalities that have money, good jobs, and health insurance who defend what they call the worlds best health care system and you put them into a modest financial situation, they would then defend Moore's factual claims and do what every they could to set things right in a fair manner.

How do American business executives and politicians expect for all these millions of people to pay for health care, the most expensive in the world, when they are only making $10,000 to 25,000 US per year with no insurance? The majority of jobs today there are inadequate in pay, benefits, and employment security which is the real root of this problem, besides the fact that health care is artificially high priced due to nationalistic greed on the executives part. The same thing is going on in the oil industry too, but that's a whole different issue like the big living wage crisis which is related to the problem of millions of uninsured workers and children. Most employees are offered benefits after 1 year with most employers in America today, but the health care insurance can easily cost them 25% of their income!!! Employers are not providing benefits, but selling them at premium prices, while most workers have no choice but to opt out due to inadequate wages.

Of course, the whole problem is a lack of income and insurance benefits for an unreported 50 million Americans while American companies claim they can't pay employee benefits due to dramatically increasing costs. (I am sure it is upwards around 100 million people under employed and uninsured which is about 1/3 of America!) Due to dramatically increasing costs as a result of greedy profit motives, I wonder if health care companies and hospitals are ultimately going to price themselves out and collapse under their own weight. A big financial crunch is coming about in many business sectors. Anyone see the big crash coming?

[Adventurer]

The callous attitude some people in the United States have towards their fellow citizens and human beings reminds me of the Spartans who left babies to die out in the wild if they didn't look perfect. Too many people think that they should not help pay for the care of others. Nevermind, that we are talking about parents of children, people who also have health insurance but can't afford it anymore or the costs are crazy... Before seeing the movie, I heard so many stories about this before and knew people who dealt with it and had to go bankrupt. The system in the U.S. is not humane vis-a-vis the American people. That is abundantly clear.
Many Americans want that changed, but it is an up-hill battle, but up-hill battles like this are worth fighting.

[thepeel]

[Gopher]

[Adventurer]

[thepeel]