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Visa Hassle for U.S. Citizen
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Visa Hassle for U.S. Citizen Reply with quote

Okay, so I get a new job at a university in February. They tell me at IMMI that I don't even need to leave the country. All I have to do is pay $90 for an "extension of sojourn" and another $60 for a "transfer of employer" and I'm done.

Great, right?

So, I leave on the fourteenth of July for a ten day vacation in Thailand.

No problem.

I get back on the 24th and the IMMI official at customs tells me that my visa has expired.

I handily point out the extension stamp on the next page.

He says that doesn't count. he says I had to ask permission to re-enter the country before I left.

I handily point out the "M" for multiple entry on my original visa. All U.S. citizens have one.

He says that doesn't count because the visa has expired. He says the extension doesn't matter. "Isn't that just common sense" he asks?

I don't know what common sense means to him, but to me, common sense means that an "extension of sojourn" would mean an extension of all the original rights and priviliges of the original visa. At least, no one told me differently.

So they confiscate my alien card and tell me to go visit Busan IMMI. Meanwhile, they give me a 30 day visa and I can't teach until they get this straightened out.

WTF? Rolling Eyes
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's Korea for ya, eh.

I hope and pray that this gets resolved in your favour as soon as possible.

R
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am correct that U.S. citizens are given multiple entry visas, yes? And I don't need to ask permission to reenter the country, yes?

If that is true, why does the IMMI official think it is intuitive that an extension would not include this privilege?

Does anyone have an extension on their original visa that they got without leaving the country?







Roch wrote:
That's Korea for ya, eh.

I hope and pray that this gets resolved in your favour as soon as possible.

R
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am correct that U.S. citizens are given multiple entry visas, yes? And I don't need to ask permission to reenter the country, yes?

If that is true, why does IMMI official think it is intuitive that an extension would not include this privilege?

Does anyone have an extension on their original visa that they got without leaving the country?







Roch wrote:
That's Korea for ya, eh.

I hope and pray that this gets resolved in your favour as soon as possible.

R
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Bigs



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is (and those in the know - please correct me if I'm wrong) is that an extension of visa only applies if you are re-signing a contract with the company that owns the original visa. Hence you would need a new visa, not an extension, for a new job.

In any case, best of luck to you... I hope it turns out well.
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laconic2



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Wonderful World of ESL

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ran across this:

http://plus.cnu.ac.kr/english/M05/EM05_04_04.jsp
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also gave them $60 for a "transfer of employer" stamp. They knew I was signing a new contract.

Bigs wrote:
My understanding is (and those in the know - please correct me if I'm wrong) is that an extension of visa only applies if you are re-signing a contract with the company that owns the original visa. Hence you would need a new visa, not an extension, for a new job.

In any case, best of luck to you... I hope it turns out well.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The United States is not listed there, however I am sure that most U.S. Citizens here will tell you they have an "M" on their visa.



laconic2 wrote:
Ran across this:

http://plowever, I am sure that us.cnu.ac.kr/english/M05/EM05_04_04.jsp
hat most U.S. citizens here wi
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trevor wrote:
I am correct that U.S. citizens are given multiple entry visas, yes? And I don't need to ask permission to reenter the country, yes?
If that is true, why does IMMI official think it is intuitive that an extension would not include this privilege?
Does anyone have an extension on their original visa that they got without leaving the country?
Roch wrote:
That's Korea for ya, eh. I hope and pray that this gets resolved in your favour as soon as possible. R


We are forgetting something; it is not a right to enter any country. It's a privilege and you are at the whim of the immigration official. They have to make a quick determination in a short amount of time�yes or no.
The same with foreigners who would want to enter your country�..immigration officials also scrutinize foreigners.
It makes absolutely no sense as to why they do the things they do at times.
I have known people who have "green cards," to the U.S. and have been denied re-entry! Go figure.
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Satin



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An extension of your visa is just that; HOWEVER, the multiple entry permit is not. Afraid you will have to pay the fee to get one added. Stupid, but true.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and by your logic they don't have to be correct in order to still be correct.

Fascists have been operating under that ideology for millenia. You are in excellent company.



hellofaniceguy wrote:
Trevor wrote:
I am correct that U.S. citizens are given multiple entry visas, yes? And I don't need to ask permission to reenter the country, yes?
If that is true, why does IMMI official think it is intuitive that an extension would not include this privilege?
Does anyone have an extension on their original visa that they got without leaving the country?
Roch wrote:
That's Korea for ya, eh. I hope and pray that this gets resolved in your favour as soon as possible. R


We are forgetting something; it is not a right to enter any country. It's a privilege and you are at the whim of the immigration official. They have to make a quick determination in a short amount of time�yes or no.
The same with foreigners who would want to enter your country�..immigration officials also scrutinize foreigners.
It makes absolutely no sense as to why they do the things they do at times.
I have known people who have "green cards," to the U.S. and have been denied re-entry! Go figure.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you tell me the source of that information?

Thx.



Satin wrote:
An extension of your visa is just that; HOWEVER, the multiple entry permit is not. Afraid you will have to pay the fee to get one added. Stupid, but true.
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Satin



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a search on "multiple entry visa." Should be on page three, titled "visa extension."
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buster brown



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to side with Satin on this one. You're mistaking a work visa for an entry visa. In my passport the entry visa is called a "Re-Entry Permit." Looking at my original visa, I can see where you might have made the assumption that both were included with the extension. In your shoes, I would have probably done the same thing and been extremely frustrated by the resulting snafu. However, the re-entry permit is what the official was referring to. As usual in Asia, if you don't ask the *exact* question, like "Will this visa extension allow me to go out and re-enter Korea?" you won't get the information you need. Good luck getting things sorted out, hopefully someone will be able to help you.
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do Canadians have to pay extra for the multiple entry visa?
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