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manlyboy

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Eddie Izzard did a tv program called "Mongrel Britain" (or something like that) where he learned a few words and phrases of old English from the middle ages, then went to the Netherlands to try them out, and he was actually able to make himself understood. |
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maston
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I'm scandinavian, speak good english and never had a native english speaking teacher in my life.
It's an asian thing I guess.. Having an American english teacher means higher status in some weird way. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| maston wrote: |
I'm scandinavian, speak good english and never had a native english speaking teacher in my life.
It's an asian thing I guess.. Having an American english teacher means higher status in some weird way. |
And missing out on a lot of opportunities to get good non native speaking English teachers coming over! |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Whilst I'm aware of the fact that, excluding Frisian for a sec, Dutch is the closest relative of English, in my opinion Danes and Icelandic people speak accentless English, or actually pick up local accents from the area they're familiar with. See the famous examples of Danish soccer players Jan Molby and Peter Schmeichel, who spoke English in a Liverpool and Manchester [edit: accent] respectively. Eidur Gudjonsen (Iceland) also sounds like he's from West London. Fluent Dutch speakers of English always sound like they're from the Netherlands.
Just a thought.
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
Whilst I'm aware of the fact that, excluding Frisian for a sec, Dutch is the closest relative of English, in my opinion Danes and Icelandic people speak accentless English, or actually pick up local accents from the area they're familiar with. See the famous examples of Danish soccer players Jan Molby and Peter Schmeichel, who spoke English in a Liverpool and Manchester respectively. Eidur Gudjonsen (Iceland) also sounds like he's from West London. Fluent Dutch speakers of English always sound like they're from the Netherlands.
Just a thought. |
On a slightly related note...
I went to school with quite a few Swedes in the U.S. and every single last one of them sounded British. I think their teachers were either trained in England or were English themselves. It was quite disconcerting actually. The funny thing was that after 4 years in the U.S. only a handful had anything similar to an American accent. I suppose it was so ingrained that they couldn't give up the accent....  |
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wo buxihuan hanguoren

Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Location: Suyuskis
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| Or just that American girls are easier when one has a pom accent I guess. |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
| Or just that American girls are easier when one has a pom accent I guess. |
Good point.
Some of those guys, while being complete assholes, were HOT and definitely getting some.... |
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yushin
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Sorry...but I've travelled extensively in "Scandinavia" and the odd professional footballer, manager or politician aside people from these countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark) do not speak "good" or indeed any kind of English at all... though I have got to admit that the Dutch have the best English in Europe...maybe even better than Eire!
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I have met a few Koreans who claim to have learned their limited but still OK English from TV or "hip hop" but I don't believe them. Maybe combined with some self study, or classes at school it helps, but normally the input level is just too high.
I'd be an expert Korean speaker if this was the case, but I'm not, I've just watched countless hours of SBS, KBS and MBC. If I'd spent all of those hours studying Korean, I'd be far more advanced. |
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