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Does your hogwan permit students to be hit by teachers?

 
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Does your hogwan permit students to be hit by teachers? Reply with quote

Does your hogwan (hokwan, hakwon, whatever, but not your public school) allow students to be hit by teachers?

If so, is it only for disciplinary or study related infractions (such as not doing homework, or being disruptive in class.)

Can any of the teachers do the hitting or is there a designated disciplinarian?

And if any student can hit students, are there any regulations about it?

I'd really like to know what other teachers have actually witnesses.

Thanks
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The math teachers do not spare the rod. I certainly don't hit my students.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Hitting... Reply with quote

IF anyone does the hitting, it should never be you or another foreign teacher. The Koreans frown highly on foreigners taking the liberty to hit their children, even though it is commonly accepted for the KTs to hit students when necessary. In the only hagwon I worked in the last 4 years, the director was responsible for the discipline which took place in their office in the presence of another Korean witness to witness the discipline...
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: To clarify... Reply with quote

By "do any of the teachers do the hitting...." I did not mean native teachers...I have not ever and will never hit a student, here or in any other country. As one respondent mentioned, there is a "designated disciplinarian" at the school where he worked, and that's really what I was after...designated disciplinarian, or any old teacher with a stick?
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my first hogwan in 2003, the manager told me that "You can hit the children. There are two reasons that its OK. The Bible says its OK and they won't die if you hit them!" Shocked
That being said. I've never hit the kids, but with the kindy kids, I have picked them up and put them outside the classroom or in their chair or otherwise been more physical than I would be in the US (for fear of lawsuit).
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passport220



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen the full gamut (I work in a PS). Once I have seen what I would consider severe physical punishment. I was in full view of a group of teachers. The teacher that did the hitting was called on it and received a mild verbal reprehended (I do not speak Korean so I can not say accurately what took place, but what I saw and what my co-teacher told me - I am comfortable with that characterization).

Some of what I see when the teachers hit the kids is meant to be punitive (for some reason it is mostly by the math teachers). Most of what I see take place is more symbolic physical punishment, not meant to cause pain but rather to get a student�s attention.

This is always by Korean teachers. I have no interest in hitting a kid, I want them relaxed and comfortable in my class as much as is practical.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hakwon permitted physical punishment.

Yes, I smacked a few kids -- not hard, but enough to get their attention. I do it still at my elementary school.

Initially I had many reservations, but physical discipline is one of those things that's just expected here.
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koon_taung_daeng



Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are a couple of kids i would love to give a good smacking
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koon_taung_daeng wrote:
there are a couple of kids i would love to give a good smacking


+1. Yesterday I felt that way too.
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foreign teachers no
K teachers yes
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 years here -- never.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, as long as the Korean teachers are the ones doing the smacking.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my old hagwon the policy was supposedly a firm 'no' (English is always fun fun fun, for any student, regardless of how much they hate school or how boring and repetative the material is, don't you know), but that didn't stop a couple of the Korean teachers and one of the foreign teachers from doing it anyways. What was wongjongnim-babo going to do? Fire the few teachers who actually cared and make the revolving door spin even faster?
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