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Koreans' self-image and those missionaries in Afghanistan
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philipjames



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Koreans' self-image and those missionaries in Afghanistan Reply with quote

I think I rolled my eyes at least twenty times while reading this article yesterday about Korea's 'aid workers.' Rolling Eyes

https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/07/27/200707270071.asp
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Kimchi Cha Cha



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if he actually believes what he wrote or whether he was just writing a saccharine bubble-piece for the English language paper in the attempt to win non-Koreans over to their plight and try to prove, yet again, that Koreans are kind and generous and go out of their way to help others with no ulterior motives.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can feel the 'Han' seeping out of this one.

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Our sons and daughters as hostages are the youths who went there to voluntarily help the locals with sheer humanitarianism during their summer holiday.


Try photo-op ten day tour in order to one-up other big churches. Does sheer humanitarianism also extend to showing disrespect to other religions?

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We have the suffering experience in the past, so we are well aware of the pains in Afghanistan.


Maybe your generation remembers doing things hard, but these kids have grown up getting everything they wanted and more. They know suffering about as much as I know the Queen on a personal basis. The British suffered through the depression, the blitz, rationing and several lousy socialist governments to the point where it was though that the place would slide back to pre-industrial status. You don't hear them going on with this kind of buffoonery any more.

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Historically, Koreans are known as kind-hearted people who help others.


Like when you helped the Japanese in their POW camps by being the most brutal exemplars of torture and cruelty, beating the crap out of soldiers from countries who would help save you from communism ten years later?

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Korean youths are taught to help others from childhood, believing that helping others is a beautiful and respectful act. We believe that it is time for us to pay back what we have received from the international community.


Like your decision to pay back sixty-odd years of open-ended US military commitment with 'f#cking USA' and an anti-Yankee campaign that was Goebbels-esque in its frothing-at-the-mouth levels of xenophobia? Korean kids taught to help? Funny, the ones I teach are taught to snicker at the mention of "Ap-eu-ree-ca".

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Our sons and daughters who went to help Afghans were kidnapped by the armed forces just because they are foreigners. Koreans do not quite understand why.


You still don't get it, right? These people were kidnapped because they chose to ignore repeated government warnings and travel to the most unstable country on the planet. Moreover, they refused police help once they arrived and then proceeded to commit acts of religious desecration at Muslim holy sites.

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We do appeal to Afghans as well as the Taliban leaders in the name of Allah. Please send the Korean youths on their medical service trip back to Korea to meet their beloved family as soon as possible.


You may as well appeal to the Martians in the name of Zeus. These are ruthless killers who think nothing of executing someone for the wrong words. People who gave sustenance and shelter to the planners of 911. People upon whom billions of dollars and countless lives have been sacrificed in an effort to stop them exporting their brand of terror and fascism. Yet many in your country want to make a deal with them.

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We Koreans respect and love Afghans.


More collectivist nonsense. If you respected and loved them so much, why was your commitment to the war on terror here limited to a handful of engineers and medics? Why not commit combat troops to make this place safe as NATO and other allied countries have done? All you care about is being seen to do barely enough in the international community so as to extract maximum benefit for yourselves. Plenty of countries do this, to be fair, but stop dressing up your motives in some kind of Koreans-are-so-f@ckin-pure-and-love-the-world garbage as you always do. One more thing. If you love the oppressed and downtrodden so much, why is it that you don't take in more refugees from places other than North Korea? And don't even get me started on that issue, because that is another of your international commitments ignored that shows the hollowness of your claims.

And you call yourself a professor. Huh!
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a great read on all these issues here:

http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2007/07/cunning-christi.html
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaganath has hit the nail right on the head here! Good job sir Wink
Those proselytizing morons got themselves into this mess so now let them deal with it on their own. They dug their own graves.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like the general attitude of Koreans toward these hostages is similar hostility to what we feel, with some Christians saying "I hope they don't get killed" and the batshait Christians saying "Bring our heroes home!"
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans can't understand why a group of christians would be harmed, singing christian songs in mosques in a war torn Muslim homeland, which is subdued by extremists and terrorists?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's odd, especially since Koreans come from a country with still vivid memories of what war can do to a country.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullshiat. Most Koreans hate those morons. The afgan government is getting a load of emails from the netizens telling the taliban to kill them.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pak Yu Man wrote:
Bullshiat. Most Koreans hate those morons. The afgan government is getting a load of emails from the netizens telling the taliban to kill them.


Really?

Only a Korean netizen would be dumb enough not to understand the relationship between the Taliban and the Afghan government.
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Passions



Joined: 31 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the middle of his article, "We do not know about Afghans." Towards the end of his article, "We Koreans respect and love Afghans."

AWESOME.
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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on....If some guys with guns walk up to you and they look like Taliban you can just run away.
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The Great Toad



Joined: 12 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We do appeal to the Taliban leaders. You are peace lovers, and please send our young volunteers back to the heart of Korea who went to your country to help you, believing in their passion alone.


This is spot on if it is one thing the Taliban Government loved is peace and quiet... The Taliban enforcers made it a point of maintaining a calm noiseless atmosphere by destroying, radios, antennas, and thoroughly beating non-peace loving Afghans who happened to be listening to a radio or playing a musical instrument. Maybe if the Western nations withdraw all the troops the Taliban can get back at least part of the country and return it to the serenity it had previously enjoyed. Oh ok right right they did make very loud explosive noises when they blew up the ancient carved Buddhas but that was to protect their Islamic religion so you can not fault them on that...

Anhow, I have no clue what all the Koreans were doing there, but I would guess they were there to help and spread the love they thought was good. I hope they make it back safe. At any rate it will be a good learning experience for them...
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newton kabiddles wrote:
Come on....If some guys with guns walk up to you and they look like Taliban you can just run away.


Ha ha!
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monkinwonderland



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boss had a pretty good idea on how the situation should be handled.

He suggested that George Bush should gather an army and invade Afghanistan with the intent of removing the Taliban.
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